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Old 07-04-2019, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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Are you saying you take the "I" in PTIA seriously? Come on, man. GSO is not what any sane, knowledgeable person considers to be an "International" airport.
It doesn't have to have flights to Paris. But having direct flights to a good number of major U.S. cities is critical. You don't really get with regional airports. However PTI once had a direct flight to Toronto, Canada. But to really get those international flights you need to have a large number of "international" companies. Before VF Corporation relocated it was one of those international companies. If Greensboro and the Triad had 10 to 20 of those kind of companies, PTI would probably have some direct international flights.

PTI is still no RDU or Charlotte Douglas. Some flights to Greensboro from major cities still have to come through Charlotte or Raleigh first.

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Old 07-04-2019, 11:51 AM
 
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"International" simply means an airport has customs and border control facilities and is capable of hosting international flights both commercial and private, and also capable of having large planes land there. If it simply meant having flights to another country then small airstrips in Europe could be considered "international" which would kinda defeat the purpose of the whole term.
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Old 07-04-2019, 04:28 PM
 
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It doesn't have to have flights to Paris. But having direct flights to a good number of major U.S. cities is critical. You don't really get with regional airports.
Flights to US cities doesn't equal "international". PTI IS a regional airport. Designating it as international is nothing more than pathetic puffery.

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However PTI once had a direct flight to Toronto, Canada.
Yeah I know. I once flew it.

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But to really get those international flights you need to have a large number of "international" companies. Before VF Corporation relocated it was one of those international companies.
And one reason why corporate headquarters like VF and Truist Financial leave the Triad, and others don't locate there, is because PTI doesn't provide the level of air service they require.

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If Greensboro and the Triad had 10 to 20 of those kind of companies, PTI would probably have some direct international flights.
Thanks Captain Obvious.

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PTI is still no RDU or Charlotte Douglas. Some flights to Greensboro from major cities still have to come through Charlotte or Raleigh first.
See above.
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Old 07-04-2019, 04:29 PM
 
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"International" simply means an airport has customs and border control facilities and is capable of hosting international flights both commercial and private, and also capable of having large planes land there.
I'm well aware of that, thanks. My point was related to the real, actual, and practical, not the theoretical and possible.
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Old 07-05-2019, 08:59 AM
 
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Edward Teach seems pretty uptight for a pirate.
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Old 07-05-2019, 09:23 AM
 
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Edward Teach seems pretty uptight for a pirate.
Aaargh! Pirates don't take kindly to annoying landlubbers.
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Old 07-05-2019, 09:51 AM
 
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Flights to US cities doesn't equal "international". PTI IS a regional airport. Designating it as international is nothing more than pathetic puffery.
I think it's pretty obvious that gsoboi78 means that PTIA is a commercial service airport as opposed to Smith-Reynolds, which is a general aviation airport. It just so happens that most cities' main commercial service airports carry the "international" designation whether they actually have direct international flights or not because they fulfill the customs requirement; thus using the designation has become a rather standardized way of distinguishing a region's commercial service airport from others. It's more so standard practice across the country than "pathetic puffery" on the part of PTIA.
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Old 07-05-2019, 10:10 AM
 
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I hate to burst your bubble, but when c-suite types visit Winston-Salem and the Innovation Quarter, they're not flying into GSO. They're flying private into Smith Reynolds. Inmar's CEO doesn't fly his private jet through GSO.

GSO is seen by the executive and recruitment crowd as a weakness. It's seen as "the best we can do" living relatively equidistant from RDU and CLT.

Executives, the kinds that are doing business in and with the Innovation Quarter...they don't do connecting flights. They fly private, or they fly direct. When you're recruiting someone to be a $400K a year brain surgeon, you don't fly them on two-leg trip across the country through DFW.

You can't get a direct flight from LAX to GSO. You can't get a direct flight from SFO to GSO. From SEA. From BOS.

And even when you can get a direct flight to/from LGA or ORD, you usually have only a handful of flights coming in or going out on each airline, meaning if your flight is late or gets cancelled, you're screwed. Might as well have booked that flight into RDU like you thought about doing in the first place and driving over.

The Innovation Quarter was built in spite of GSO, not because of it.
The IQ example may have been somewhat inaccurate, but the overall point being made is sound--Winston-Salem still benefits in a general sense from the regional presence of PTI. Im not even going to try and dig up the stats here, but it would even seem that Winston-Salem and Greensboro have an edge with PTI compared to standalone cities of similar size and their smaller, less busier airports. Of course, this does not factor in the competition from CLT and RDU which possibly reduce any PTI-related edge.
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Old 07-05-2019, 10:15 AM
 
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Thank goodness for PTIA otherwise WS would be just like Fayetteville. You really are insufferable with your passive aggressive jabs at WS. I also have walked down Fourth Street after baseball games. Just because GSO’s downtown grid is tiny doesn’t mean every downtown amenity has to be built on top of each other. I mean lol at the thought that the Dash stadium is like some suburban ballpark. Talk about small time thinking.
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Old 07-05-2019, 10:27 AM
 
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I think it's pretty obvious that gsoboi78 means that PTIA is a commercial service airport as opposed to Smith-Reynolds, which is a general aviation airport. It just so happens that most cities' main commercial service airports carry the "international" designation whether they actually have direct international flights or not because they fulfill the customs requirement; thus using the designation has become a rather standardized way of distinguishing a region's commercial service airport from others. It's more so standard practice across the country than "pathetic puffery" on the part of PTIA.
Perhaps, and so I guess I'll partially apologize to the boi. But the idea that PTIA is an international airport in anything but name only is preposterous.
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