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Old 07-13-2015, 03:57 PM
 
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Thousands marching in Winston today to protest voter suppression laws in the state.

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Old 07-14-2015, 06:13 AM
 
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The results of this trial will be interesting, to say the least, and certainly are difficult to predict. On the one hand, the legislature does have the authority to establish the methods by which voting will take place--within limits. On the other hand, I think it's despicable that they would enact rules that in any way discourage or restrict the ability to vote. This is a democracy, and we should do everything within reason to allow everyone to vote regardless of their political views.
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Old 07-14-2015, 07:39 PM
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As hard as I try, I cannot find any affinity with those opposed to showing an ID. Instead of marching they should have gone to DMV.

Folks have had, or will have had, years to get an ID.

All this protesting is very suspicious. Very.
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Old 07-14-2015, 07:58 PM
 
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All this protesting is very suspicious. Very.
What's your suspicion?
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Old 07-15-2015, 07:10 AM
 
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As hard as I try, I cannot find any affinity with those opposed to showing an ID. Instead of marching they should have gone to DMV.

Folks have had, or will have had, years to get an ID.

All this protesting is very suspicious. Very.

Voter ID is not the only issue at hand, and in fact it's probably one of the lesser ones. Of greater concern, I think, is restricting the ability to vote by eliminating pre-registration of underage voters (who would be of age by election day), eliminating same-day registration, and eliminating provisional ballots for those who vote in a different precinct from the one to which they are assigned (among other things). I find these unwarranted restrictions to be much more suspicious than the protesting.
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Old 07-15-2015, 12:49 PM
 
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I guess I'm old...when I turned 18 (not in NC, this would have been in NY state), that's when I registered to vote, no sooner. You had to be registered a certain number of weeks prior to being eligible to vote. There was no same-day registration, no provisional ballots. I have long been shocked to not have been required to show government-issued ID in order to vote.

To me, the most important thing is to have educated voters. I don't care about their opinions on the issue(s) and candidate(s) being decided, but I certainly want them to have knowledge of same.
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Old 07-15-2015, 03:01 PM
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What's your suspicion?

That voter fraud in certain districts is rampant. Don't bother retorting that it has not been found. That is why suspicious and not proven.
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Old 07-15-2015, 03:11 PM
 
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That voter fraud in certain districts is rampant.
No, it isn't.
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Old 07-15-2015, 05:40 PM
 
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Voter ID is not the only issue at hand, and in fact it's probably one of the lesser ones. Of greater concern, I think, is restricting the ability to vote by eliminating pre-registration of underage voters (who would be of age by election day), eliminating same-day registration, and eliminating provisional ballots for those who vote in a different precinct from the one to which they are assigned (among other things). I find these unwarranted restrictions to be much more suspicious than the protesting.
I've really just learned that it is the lesser one because it's widely called the "Voter ID" issue. The other issues are much more real to me than the ID one because I feel like people should have or be able to get ID very easily - and they can.

Did anyone read about the first couple of witnesses? The stories were kind of pathetic and not very convincing for the plaintiff. I was surprised that was all they could come up with. It was mostly along the lines of "My feelings were hurt because I thought I was registered but I wasn't." I really hope they come up with more than that!
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Old 07-15-2015, 05:44 PM
 
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I guess I'm old...when I turned 18 (not in NC, this would have been in NY state), that's when I registered to vote, no sooner. You had to be registered a certain number of weeks prior to being eligible to vote. There was no same-day registration, no provisional ballots. I have long been shocked to not have been required to show government-issued ID in order to vote.

To me, the most important thing is to have educated voters. I don't care about their opinions on the issue(s) and candidate(s) being decided, but I certainly want them to have knowledge of same.
Most people aren't educated, and that can't be a requirement for voting. Everyone has a right to be heard - even those that are less educated than others. That would be like requiring land ownership to vote.

I just heard a story about someone being arrested because he couldn't produce identification. I always thought you were required to have ID, so I don't understand making that even a minor point. This should be about the other issues, like early registration and early voting. The point is to get as many people to vote as possible and to make it easily available to everyone.
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