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Old 08-27-2015, 02:04 PM
 
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Ahhh... don't you just LOVE these responses?

So QUICK with the negative put-downs and defensiveness.
No discussion... no process... just: "IF YOU DON'T AGREE, GET OUT."

Really?
There's no, "One South" for everything... but there ARE "Southern Values" ... which are interesting because the entire nation originally came from "small town, agrarian roots." And perhaps this is what consciously or unconsciously draws us here? (i.e. North Carolina, it's more of, "small town South" ... regardless of the "city." People still either know each other or knows someone who knows you?)

See... the interesting part to me is ... the time we're living in.
  1. On one hand, there IS a "Southern" value that says, "Keep family business at home." Don't discuss your problems... smile and wave and pretend that everything is happy and keep walking.
  2. But that's complicated by the fact that we're living in 2015 where there's all these complexities around social issues THAT ARE EVERYWHERE... new slants on Feminism... and how it affects power dynamics on jobs and in personal relationships... changing relationships to churches... sexuality... how technology is effecting people (i.e. in our alienated time, the stats show that half the church population is addicted to porn) ... drugs .. legal and illegal ... education ... employment dynamics... etc...
So if the cultural value system teaches people now to talk... then how is frustration processed?
  • Bullying?
  • More pills?
  • Police say the heroin epidemic sweeping the country is moving into North Carolina
  • Since Durham has become the LGBT capital (i think?) of N.C., then it appears that Greensboro is the "Down Low Lesbian" area of choice??
  • Pickup trucks still flying Stars and Bars while saying there's no race problem ... yet Internalize Racism can some time feel like it's off the hook... (i.e. blacks supporting behavior that keeps them oppressed)
How are the issues of toxic shame PROCESSED??
The OP's statement about ARTS is more than just about activity ... it's absolutely CRITICAL to human beings in making sense of their world. NO place stays the same--regardless how it's dealt with.

As long as more AMERICANS are taking rising amounts of psych medications, clearly the status quo is not perfect and the problems of life cannot be simply swept under the carpet as the fault of, "Newcomers."

I almost feel like the negativity that comes up by old-timers when issues are raised is symptomatic of "Agitated Depression." "It won't hurt if you don't move it."

If you're a native and you love it... and you love having a standard of living that matches what you see on T.V. --- then you're going to have to accept that you live in a nation where people move around. That includes companies and technologies. So instead of just trying to slam the book closed... tell us why you believe what's worked in the past will work in the future. (Hmm... seems like the best way to maintain it to me...)

On the other hand, if there's a splinter in your hand... don't hid it and try to shame the next guy who gets a splinter in his hand... find out how to remove it!

What did anybody say negative? And who put the OP down?
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Old 08-27-2015, 02:19 PM
 
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And what is "agitated depression"? I've never heard of that. I know the new DSMV has different qualifiers for Major Depressive Disorder, but "agitated depression" is a new one on me.
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Old 08-29-2015, 03:48 PM
 
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What's with the essays on southern culture veganwriter? Your opinions of us are dripping with condescension and are practically unreadable - or maybe they just aren't interesting enough to sit through - I'm not sure which.

Winston-Salem has about the level of activity one would expect from a city of this size, and much more of an art scene than anyone would dream of. The arts aren't all found along Trade Street...you may have to look a little to find the culture but it's there. Of course W-S doesn't compare well to DC or even Charlotte, and if you came here looking for that lifestyle then that's a personal issue. But I hate when people act like we don't know what's going on in the rest of the world. You aren't the only one who has experienced other places and cultures.

The complaining just makes you look foolish, but keep it up if that's your thing.
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Old 08-29-2015, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Southport
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What's with the essays on southern culture veganwriter? Your opinions of us are dripping with condescension and are practically unreadable - or maybe they just aren't interesting enough to sit through - I'm not sure which.

Winston-Salem has about the level of activity one would expect from a city of this size, and much more of an art scene than anyone would dream of. The arts aren't all found along Trade Street...you may have to look a little to find the culture but it's there. Of course W-S doesn't compare well to DC or even Charlotte, and if you came here looking for that lifestyle then that's a personal issue. But I hate when people act like we don't know what's going on in the rest of the world. You aren't the only one who has experienced other places and cultures.

The complaining just makes you look foolish, but keep it up if that's your thing.
I'd rep you if I could!

That is her thing, btw!
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Old 08-29-2015, 08:53 PM
 
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This is just my opinion on Winston-Salem, NC. But I have been here for almost a year and commuted back and forth prior to that for almost 2 years. A job relocation and school brought me otherwise, I would love to be back North, where there are actual cities and vibrant nightlife.

A few things I have noticed about Winston-Salem or "the South" is that one they pride themselves on being nice. When they do have this aura or attitude as in no one can not tell us no different or otherwise--this is how it is type of deal. It is for sure the land of pimento cheese, Cheerwine (What is that?), retirees, and bored housewives of doctors and "old money".

I have seen so many posts, blogs, articles when I reserach on what to do in W-S that constantly push the location for the arts and innovation district. Innovation, yes. Arts? Not so much. There are a few galleries literally here and there but nothing to exciting or renowned. I have relied on the vast amont of wineries and breweries for my weekend fun. Or the other option, make the hour and a half hike to Charlotte, NC. Also the food trucks they have are so cute, they will promote them like there are several when in actuality it is the same three trucks. This does not live up to DCs Farragut Square lunctime food rallies. But they try so...

I once said to someone that it is a "city" that is trying really hard to be something but I am not sure quite what though. The arts district is so small it is cute. But here you will run across some hippies, young professionals, older crowd etc. There is a mixture but I want this city to be more. I feel it has potential OR like anything and most people in the south--are scared of a little change.

Otherwise, I give the city an A- for traffic. Traffic? None. Do you mean the random bouts of congestion on the main thruways which is just slow drivers adhering to the 45 mph speed limit of folks who cannot merge. Either way. If you cringe at traffic this is the place for you. If you like having an actual social life, meh--you will have to put forth your best effort.
You say you want this city to be more? Here's a novel idea; get off your ass and do something about it.

I mean do you seriously think when Columbus hit the shore in 1492 he had today's D.C., LA, NY, ATL, CHI rolled up in the hull of the ship?
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Old 08-29-2015, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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To be fair, you picked the 4th going on 5th largest city in NC. (Charlotte - Raleigh - Greensboro - Winston - Durham::: not sure if Durham surpassed it yet)


There are plenty of Southern cities besides Winston. Winston is great for what it is. It's not striving to be the beacon of the new south. It's historically a large southern city and it seems to have kept that charming historical southern feel (while still progressing).


There are cities like Atlanta, New Orleans, Austin, Nashville, Miami, Etc I wouldn't judge the entire south based on Winston if Winston isn't your cup of tea.

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Old 08-29-2015, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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You say you want this city to be more? Here's a novel idea; get off your ass and do something about it.

I mean do you seriously think when Columbus hit the shore in 1492 he had today's D.C., LA, NY, ATL, CHI rolled up in the hull of the ship?


Do you seriously think Christopher Columbus ever came to what is modern day United States? I don't even think he came to North America at all.
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Old 08-29-2015, 11:52 PM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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To be fair, you picked the 4th going on 5th largest city in NC. (Charlotte - Raleigh - Greensboro - Winston - Durham::: not sure if Durham surpassed it yet)
Yeah, Durham solidly passed W-S a few years ago. At the last Census the two were "neck-n-neck" with W-S holding a slight edge. This puts W-S fifth in the state.
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Old 08-30-2015, 03:26 AM
 
Location: Southport
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Do you seriously think Christopher Columbus ever came to what is modern day United States? I don't even think he came to North America at all.
Is this supposed to be funny or sarcastic?
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Old 08-30-2015, 06:03 AM
 
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Is this supposed to be funny or sarcastic?
I don't think it was meant to be either. Historians are pretty sure Columbus spent all his time in the Caribbean and never set foot in North America at all.

Is this what we're talking about? This thread is weird.
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