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Old 10-29-2015, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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Joseph S Koury, One of Greensboro most prominent developers had a vision for the Four Seasons complex before he died. In 1986 Koury opened a third floor and change the name from Four Seasons Mall to Four Seasons Town Centre. But he had a bigger plan, some of which came to fruition and other parts of the plan never materialized. Koury planned to build convention center attached to the Sheraton Four Seasons (was called the Holiday Inn Four Seasons at the time). The next phase of the plan was to build a 485 room hotel tower atop the convention center, expand the mall with retail stores/lounges and connect it to the hotel and convention center. The mall expansion would have also included two more department stores and a parking deck. The convention center opened in 1990 and the tower opened about 5 years later but the mall expansion and enclosed connector never materialized. Here is an old News & Record article about Koury's plans. There was obviously a change in design for the 28-story hotel tower. Joe Koury also had plans for another high-rise project near the mall.

"The plans are highlighted by additions of two department stores, an enclosed connector between the hotel and mall, and a glitzy 25-30 story hotel tower similar to those found in major cities such as Dallas and Atlanta."

"The first phase, which will connect the hotel to the mall with a collection of lounges, restaurants and shops, is to be finished in spring 1992. A walkway will join the hotel entrance to a second floor mall entrance.
By the fall of 1992, Koury plans to have completed the addition of a major department store and a second ``junior' department store. Koury hopes to announce the names of those two stores within 90 days, emphasizing that they will be higher-quality stores similar to existing Four Seasons anchors such as Belk and Thalhimer's."



Finally, Koury plans to complete the hotel tower by fall 1993. The hotel tower's exterior will be made of mirrored glass, with its roof jabbing the sky at a 45-degree angle. On either side of the building, cylinders will house elevators and stairways. The addition is expected to add 300 to 400 rooms to the hotel, which now has 522 rooms

"When completed, Four Seasons Town Centre will incorporate 3.5 million square feet under one roof. That would make it one of the largest air-conditioned and heated buildings in the state"

UNVEILING THE FUTURE KOURY REMAINS BULLISH ON GREENSBOPR - Greensboro News & Record: Home

After Joe Koury died, Koury Corp lost its vision and became just another company that purchases commercial properties around the city

BTW Joe Koury's plans for Grandover were much larger in scope. For one thing the Grandover Resort would have eventually had 900 rooms almost as large as the 1,014 room Sheraton Four Seasons. It would have been a massive 14-story building. Instead its a 14-story 247 room hotel resort. The conference space was suppose to have over 200,000 square feet almost as large as the convention space in the Koury Convention Center.

"In Grandover's business corridor that fronts Interstate 85, the headquarters of the Atlantic Coast Conference is under construction on the East course. Grandover will have two office parks - one for small buildings like the ACC, and another for large buildings.
Koury envisions a build-out of about 60 office buildings, with 2.4 million-square-feet of space. At least two more office buildings will come under construction this summer.
The first phase of construction will begin this fall on a 14-story, 900-room European style hotel and conference center. The complex will adjoin the clubhouse and eventually have 200,000 square feet of meeting and exhibit space.
Koury insists he will not be competing with his own hotel/convention center at Four Seasons. ``Two different markets,' he says.
Construction will begin next year on a European style shopping village with 500,000 square feet of retail space. ``It's going to have lakes and canals, patios and walkways, bars and restaurants,' Koury says. ``You'll think you're in Europe."


http://www.greensboro.com/a-grand-id...a11ec645f.html

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Old 10-29-2015, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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Busch Gardens was also planned for the Grandover location before settling on Williamsburg, Virginia.

"If not for water and sewer limitations in the Sedgefield area in 1967, land that is now Grandover would likely be producing Budweiser beer today instead of long tee shots. Twenty-nine years ago, Anheuser-Busch optioned 400 acres of land for a $40 million brewery. There was also talk about a Busch Gardens-type theme park for the location.
When the deal fell apart, Joe Koury bought the land. At the time, he was a home builder with Kirkman and Koury Inc. Large-scale commercial development was still in his future. But he could see it coming."
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Old 10-30-2015, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Winston-Salem, NC
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We've only been in the Triad since 2011, and spend most of our time around Winston (we live near Wallburg), but I've always loved Grandover. We stayed there one time when I was interviewing for a job her several years ago. I'm sure it has been disappointing that the area around the hotel hasn't been as successful as hoped. We even looked at buying a home there, but the schools were poor and the taxes and HOA fees were crazy.
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Old 10-30-2015, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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We've only been in the Triad since 2011, and spend most of our time around Winston (we live near Wallburg), but I've always loved Grandover. We stayed there one time when I was interviewing for a job her several years ago. I'm sure it has been disappointing that the area around the hotel hasn't been as successful as hoped. We even looked at buying a home there, but the schools were poor and the taxes and HOA fees were crazy.
Koury Corp is not the same Koury Corp when Joe Koury was alive. If he were still alive he'd probably complete his vision for both Grandover and Four Seasons eventually. That will likely never happen now. Koury Corp sold the mall which is something Joe Koury would have never done.

In addition to expanding the mall and connecting it to the hotel and convention center, there would have been another enclosed connector on the other side of the convention center over Pinecroft St to another high-rise hotel (another hotel chain) and convention center expansion. This was to become a massive complex all in one building.

Grandover Resort would have had 900 guest rooms and an upscale shopping village with water canals like in Venice Italy.

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Old 10-31-2015, 12:29 PM
 
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His nephew was my roommate for 2 years in college. I met him once...he seemed like a very driven man. He did a lot for GSO and definitely had vision for much more before he died.
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