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Old 01-15-2019, 07:12 AM
 
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What's going on with Carroll? I feel like he can't get anything accomplished anymore. Now I'm waiting for The Avenue in Wilmington to be downgraded to a Bee Safe Storage.
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Old 01-15-2019, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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What's going on with Carroll? I feel like he can't get anything accomplished anymore. Now I'm waiting for The Avenue in Wilmington to be downgraded to a Bee Safe Storage.
Didn't he run into some issues with the city of Wilmington in regards to the Avenue/Westin Hotel project?
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Old 06-13-2019, 11:53 AM
 
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So just an update...

After some early attendance troubles (they drew about 1800/game in the first homestand), it appears as if the Rockers are slowly building a base. They're up to a little over 2K fans/game. IIRC, the projection was for about 2500/game, but I think at about 2K/game, they can do OK for a little while.


That said, I do hope that the attendance stays north of 2K/game. A lot of teams have an attendance boom the first season, slightly reduced attendance the 2nd and 3rd seasons before levelling out by around the 4th season or so. Hopefully the Rockers simply need to build a base and will level out to projections (or better). If by season 4, the Rockers are drawing 1500/game or less, I don't see how they can stay afloat.
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Old 06-13-2019, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Winston-Salem, NC
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I haven't been to a Rockers game yet, but will sometime this season. I'm happy that their attendance is improving. Must be their Instagram feed lol.
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Old 06-13-2019, 01:41 PM
 
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Didn't he run into some issues with the city of Wilmington in regards to the Avenue/Westin Hotel project?
No, the City approved the project last year and Carroll submitted detailed plans in March:

"The Avenue has submitted plans for more than 1.1 million square feet of development on 44.5 acres off Military Cutoff Road. Approved last June by the Wilmington City Council, the mixed-use development from the Greensboro-based Carroll Companies will offer high-end retail, office space, 500 luxury apartment homes, three parking garages and a 231-room Westin Hotel.

The mammoth, 10-building project is referred to as Carroll at the Avenue on design plans submitted Wednesday to the city for technical review.

Many of the previously announced features are reflected in the plans, but a few new observations can be gleamed from the submitted documents.

At the heart of the plans are four buildings that will be 75 feet tall, a seven-story height that required the project get approval for a special-use permit. One of those buildings is the Westin hotel.

One of those buildings is the Westin hotel.

In total, there will be 517 residential units spread across one-, two- and three-bedroom designs.

The project will boast 115,000 square feet of retail space. On conceptual drawings, the spaces are filled with high-end stores like Gucci, William-Sonoma and more -- although no retail partners have been officially announced.

There will be 2,035 parking spaces throughout the project, including the 1,600 spaces inside the three parking decks.

Conceptual designs featured on Carroll’s website for The Avenue show one building would feature a grocery store, but the plans submitted Wednesday don’t reflect that specific use.

No start of construction date for The Avenue has been announced."


Of course, that last sentence is perhaps the most important, given Carroll's track record.

https://www.starnewsonline.com/news/...of-development
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Old 06-15-2019, 11:06 AM
 
Location: North Greensboro
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No, the City approved the project last year and Carroll submitted detailed plans in March:

"The Avenue has submitted plans for more than 1.1 million square feet of development on 44.5 acres off Military Cutoff Road. Approved last June by the Wilmington City Council, the mixed-use development from the Greensboro-based Carroll Companies will offer high-end retail, office space, 500 luxury apartment homes, three parking garages and a 231-room Westin Hotel.

The mammoth, 10-building project is referred to as Carroll at the Avenue on design plans submitted Wednesday to the city for technical review.

Many of the previously announced features are reflected in the plans, but a few new observations can be gleamed from the submitted documents.

At the heart of the plans are four buildings that will be 75 feet tall, a seven-story height that required the project get approval for a special-use permit. One of those buildings is the Westin hotel.

One of those buildings is the Westin hotel.

In total, there will be 517 residential units spread across one-, two- and three-bedroom designs.

The project will boast 115,000 square feet of retail space. On conceptual drawings, the spaces are filled with high-end stores like Gucci, William-Sonoma and more -- although no retail partners have been officially announced.

There will be 2,035 parking spaces throughout the project, including the 1,600 spaces inside the three parking decks.

Conceptual designs featured on Carrollís website for The Avenue show one building would feature a grocery store, but the plans submitted Wednesday donít reflect that specific use.

No start of construction date for The Avenue has been announced."


Of course, that last sentence is perhaps the most important, given Carroll's track record.

https://www.starnewsonline.com/news/...of-development
will probably open around 2030. I'm serious.
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Old 08-05-2019, 07:18 PM
 
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45 openings with an average attendance of 2146/game. Still a bit short of expectations and it appears that things are starting to stabilize in the slightly over 2k/game mark.

We'll see. I'll likely be going to my first Rockers game this weekend.
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Old 08-06-2019, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Winston-Salem, NC
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I think they did a very good job with the stadium. It's a great addition for High Point.

I imagine HPU wouldn't mind owning the stadium of the team doesn't succeed.
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Old 08-06-2019, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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I have noticed attendance being a little low which is why it was smart for them to build a smaller stadium. Even still there are a lot of empty seats. But understand where downtown High Point is today. While the stadium serves as a catalyst, there isn't much to do downtown yet. It would help if they could attract more restaurants downtown and maybe even open a nightclub/brewery, things that will get people in the habit to come downtown.
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Old 08-06-2019, 11:12 AM
 
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I have noticed attendance being a little low which is why it was smart for them to build a smaller stadium. Even still there are a lot of empty seats. But understand where downtown High Point is today. While the stadium serves as a catalyst, there isn't much to do downtown yet. It would help if they could attract more restaurants downtown and maybe even open a nightclub/brewery, things that will get people in the habit to come downtown.
Agreed that the lack of things to do around the ballpark hurts. Other than a Subway, there's little in walking distance. I understand a new bar will be opening soon over there. The food hall should be done in time for next season hopefully and that will be another attraction.

It's too bad Brown Truck and Sweet Ole Bills aren't just a little closer.
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