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Old 10-12-2017, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC
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No contradiction at all. Amazon is simply looking for something that G'boro doesn't have. Read the RFP and you'll understand. G'boro can be a fit some some projects and not for others, its that simple. The Toytota/Mazda project is a great example of a project that is a perfect fit for G'boro.

Who says G'boro is only focusing on low hanging fruit? I've never suggested any such thing.
Again, neither did I. It was a general statement about any area. Not specifically G'boro. Nobody is denying that G'boro is long shot for Amazon. I'm thinking some of you think that G'boro is putting all of their eggs in the Amazon basket and not focusing in on other projects. I'm sure that isn't the case. I'm sure that isn't the case for the other cities who also stand no chance in landing Amazon, but put in their names as well.
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Old 10-12-2017, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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I agree that Greensboro is not putting all its eggs in one basket with Amazon. Im sure the city is involved with other potential deals thats not been made public or deals that the city will not comment on in regards to the Liberty mega site for example. If I had to guess where Amazon is going, its either Boston or suburban Washington DC in Virginia. Charlotte is North Carolina's best chance and even Charlotte has slim chances.
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Old 10-12-2017, 06:54 PM
 
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I agree that Greensboro is not putting all its eggs in one basket with Amazon. Im sure the city is involved with other potential deals thats not been made public or deals that the city will not comment on in regards to the Liberty mega site for example. If I had to guess where Amazon is going, its either Boston or suburban Washington DC in Virginia. Charlotte is North Carolina's best chance and even Charlotte has slim chances.
FWIW, I actually disagree and think Raleigh would have the advantage over Charlotte. But both are longshots at best (Greensboro doesn't even fit the definition of longshot). IMO, this project is headed to New Jersey now that I see the incentives they're getting. Probably either Jersey City or Newark.

Also, noone has suggested that Greensboro is putting all its eggs in the Amazon basket. The point that some of us are making is that we shouldn't be putting any eggs in the basket.
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Old 10-12-2017, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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FWIW, I actually disagree and think Raleigh would have the advantage over Charlotte. But both are longshots at best (Greensboro doesn't even fit the definition of longshot). IMO, this project is headed to New Jersey now that I see the incentives they're getting. Probably either Jersey City or Newark.

Also, noone has suggested that Greensboro is putting all its eggs in the Amazon basket. The point that some of us are making is that we shouldn't be putting any eggs in the basket.
Yeah i agree. Everything from different news articles and analyst companies always puts Raleigh/RTP as having the best shot in NC. And at times we're actually ranked pretty high up there. I personally havent seen anything or anyone that puts Charlotte in much of a running, not that it isnt idk. I was just reading in some other forum or thread (cant remember where now) that someone with pretty reliable sources that work at Amazon have been told that the Southeast is being given a hard look. IF thats even remotely true, besides Atlanta obviously i think the Raleigh probably does have the best chance out of southeast cities. But is probably pretty far behind Atlanta in serious consideration.
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Old 10-12-2017, 09:50 PM
 
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Yeah i agree. Everything from different news articles and analyst companies always puts Raleigh/RTP as having the best shot in NC. And at times we're actually ranked pretty high up there. I personally havent seen anything or anyone that puts Charlotte in much of a running, not that it isnt idk. I was just reading in some other forum or thread (cant remember where now) that someone with pretty reliable sources that work at Amazon have been told that the Southeast is being given a hard look. IF thats even remotely true, besides Atlanta obviously i think the Raleigh probably does have the best chance out of southeast cities. But is probably pretty far behind Atlanta in serious consideration.
If Amazon were to come to the Southeast, Atlanta would pretty much have to be the city one would think. But Raleigh is the kind of area that is big enough to support Amazon, but could be dramatically altered by the appearance of Amazon HQ2 as well (more so than most of the other real contenders out there).
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Old 10-13-2017, 03:59 AM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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The problem with Raleigh is that they fail the "mass transit" test, one of the things that has been said about Greensboro. Charlotte does have a light rail system and there are plans for expansion. Charlotte also has a much larger dense population. I see why some say Raleigh is the best option, because its a tech research region
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Old 10-13-2017, 07:40 AM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC
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FWIW, I actually disagree and think Raleigh would have the advantage over Charlotte. But both are longshots at best (Greensboro doesn't even fit the definition of longshot). IMO, this project is headed to New Jersey now that I see the incentives they're getting. Probably either Jersey City or Newark.

Also, noone has suggested that Greensboro is putting all its eggs in the Amazon basket. The point that some of us are making is that we shouldn't be putting any eggs in the basket.
Well that says to me that we (G'boro) shouldn't be doing anything to build economic growth, which I vehemently disagree with.
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Old 10-13-2017, 08:16 AM
 
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Well that says to me that we (G'boro) shouldn't be doing anything to build economic growth, which I vehemently disagree with.
How can you possibly think that is what that means? Your conclusion would only be correct if the HQ2 project was the only source of economic growth available to G'boro. It obviously isn't...the city is, and has been, pursuing many sources of economic growth. What is being said is that G'boro should allocate resources to those areas and projects where the city has an actual chance of succeeding, not wasting time and resources chasing a pipe dream. Its not a difficult concept to understand.
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Old 10-13-2017, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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As far as I know limited resources have been put into the Amazon bid, which at this point is all it is. City staff were paid to put a bid together and thats about it. Despite the odds I see no harm in putting in a bid. Not putting in a bid sends a signal to other companies that our region is not serious about job growth, especially when just about every city is putting in a bid. Who knows, if we get Amazon's attention we might be a better fit for other future Amazon operations.
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Old 10-13-2017, 10:59 AM
 
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As far as I know limited resources have been put into the Amazon bid, which at this point is all it is. City staff were paid to put a bid together and thats about it. Despite the odds I see no harm in putting in a bid. Not putting in a bid sends a signal to other companies that our region is not serious about job growth, especially when just about every city is putting in a bid. Who knows, if we get Amazon's attention we might be a better fit for other future Amazon operations.
I hope its actually the Economic Development Partnership thats putting the RFP response together.
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