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Old 09-08-2017, 01:30 PM
 
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I would actually think Charlotte would make the finalist over Raleigh. They actually have the "mass transit" everyone is talking about. Some mentioned Greensboro's Amtrak not cutting it, but Raleigh is no different from Greensboro in that regard. The Charlotte area is also more populated and Amazon already has a strong prescence in the Charlotte area so thats puzzling.
Market Watch basically used some of their past rankings to compile this list. The criteria didn't come from the actual RFP, which are outlined in this article.
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Old 09-08-2017, 01:37 PM
 
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LOL, no they wouldn't. You think folks in Winston-Salem are throwing tantrums right now?

Greensboro submitting a proposal is cool and all, but it's not a make-or-break type of thing.
Correct. Its actually a "CYA" type of thing, since econ. dev. efforts in G'boro have been so misled, misguided and lacking. A waste of time is a waste of time. There is no upside.
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Old 09-08-2017, 01:40 PM
 
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I would actually think Charlotte would make the finalist over Raleigh. They actually have the "mass transit" everyone is talking about. Some mentioned Greensboro's Amtrak not cutting it, but Raleigh is no different from Greensboro in that regard. Heck Greensboro's multimodal depot is even bigger than Raleigh's. The Charlotte area is also more populated and Amazon already has a strong prescence in the Charlotte area so thats puzzling. However I would imagine that the finalist list isnt even complete being that the deadline to submit bids is in October. Also after looking at the article it would appear that its not Amazon's finalist list. Charlotte would have to stand out over Raleigh. The only reason Raleigh is on that list is because of RTP and the area's reputation of having world class companies. Otherwise the metro area is roughly the same size in population as the Triad.
Its not something "everyone" is talking about, its a requirement in Amazon's RFP.
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Old 09-08-2017, 01:46 PM
 
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LOL, no they wouldn't. You think folks in Winston-Salem are throwing tantrums right now?

Greensboro submitting a proposal is cool and all, but it's not a make-or-break type of thing.
Simply put, seeing a city at least putting their name in the pot, even if nothing comes from it is better than doing nothing. Maybe all it's used for is for informational purposes for a time when G'boro can legitimately compete with larger areas for major corporations. Believe me, people will start caring once jobs start drying up. I've been through this before, and those areas are begging for any sort of muscle movement by economic development to do something. I find it kind of alarming that someone would actually complain that the city is trying to better itself.
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Old 09-08-2017, 01:51 PM
 
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I would actually think Charlotte would make the finalist over Raleigh. They actually have the "mass transit" everyone is talking about. Some mentioned Greensboro's Amtrak not cutting it, but Raleigh is no different from Greensboro in that regard. Heck Greensboro's multimodal depot is even bigger than Raleigh's. The Charlotte area is also more populated and Amazon already has a strong prescence in the Charlotte area so thats puzzling. However I would imagine that the finalist list isnt even complete being that the deadline to submit bids is in October. Also after looking at the article it would appear that its not Amazon's finalist list. Charlotte would have to stand out over Raleigh. The only reason Raleigh is on that list is because of RTP and the area's reputation of having world class companies. Otherwise the metro area is roughly the same size in population as the Triad. But in my opinion Charlotte fits Amazon's criteria better than any other city in the state.

This comment is directed to a few other people. Again I have stated multiple times that Greensboro getting it is a long shot so no need for the "come back to reality " type comments. But it certainly doesn't hurt for Greensboro to submit a bid. Lol everybody submitting bids even the state of Rhode Island. Rhode Island's largest city is smaller than Greensboro.
Why are you so concerned about Raleigh's chances? The fact is..Raleigh is much more of a contender than Greensboro. Just do your research.

Your comparisons between these other cities and Greensboro has reached the level of a sickness.
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Old 09-08-2017, 01:52 PM
 
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Simply put, seeing a city at least putting their name in the pot, even if nothing comes from it is better than doing nothing. Maybe all it's used for is for informational purposes for a time when G'boro can legitimately compete with larger areas for major corporations. Believe me, people will start caring once jobs start drying up. I've been through this before, and those areas are begging for any sort of muscle movement by economic development to do something. I find it kind of alarming that someone would actually complain that the city is trying to better itself.
I don't think anyone is complaining that the city submitted a bid, but some of the boosterism in this thread is a bit off-putting, although not entirely unexpected.
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Old 09-08-2017, 01:58 PM
 
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The only reason Raleigh is on that list is because of RTP and the area's reputation of having world class companies.
Raleigh is on the list for several reasons: large tech presence, renowned universities, highly educated workforce, great business climate, etc. RTP is also a relatively inexpensive airport and has the daily flights to the major cities outlined in the RFP.

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Lol everybody submitting bids even the state of Rhode Island. Rhode Island's largest city is smaller than Greensboro.
That's because the state of Rhode Island is the 1M+ Providence MSA/Boston CSA and has the universities (Providence itself is home to an Ivy), infrastructure, mass transit, etc. Amazon is looking for. And of course Providence is smaller than Greensboro; it's only 20 square miles but I bet anybody that visits both cities won't come away saying Greensboro is bigger.
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Old 09-08-2017, 03:21 PM
 
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Its not something "everyone" is talking about, its a requirement in Amazon's RFP.
And Raleigh don't have it yet they are on a list, not that it matters because Raleigh doesnt have a good chance either.
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Old 09-08-2017, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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Raleigh is on the list for several reasons: large tech presence, renowned universities, highly educated workforce, great business climate, etc. RTP is also a relatively inexpensive airport and has the daily flights to the major cities outlined in the RFP.



That's because the state of Rhode Island is the 1M+ Providence MSA/Boston CSA and has the universities (Providence itself is home to an Ivy), infrastructure, mass transit, etc. Amazon is looking for. And of course Providence is smaller than Greensboro; it's only 20 square miles but I bet anybody that visits both cities won't come away saying Greensboro is bigger.
I think it goes far beyond just the basic requirements. I think they are looking for a city that is culturally the right fit for their company, a city that has strong "creative class" with a cosmopolitan feel and demographics will play an important role.
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Old 09-08-2017, 04:43 PM
 
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And Raleigh don't have it yet they are on a list, not that it matters because Raleigh doesnt have a good chance either.
How many of these lists do you see Greensboro on?

Here are the cities that meet the criteria for Amazon

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/amazons...re-contenders/

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