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Old 07-15-2019, 01:15 PM
 
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Charlotte is far more progressive than the Triad. I'm black & grew up in Winston-Salem, there's a Jewish community but it's quite small compared with Charlotte. I have heard people make anti Semitic comments, though they were very conservative friends of my White fiance - these same people also made anti Muslim & immigrant remarks. I can't say how the local governments in the Triad cities are. The crime here has gotten very bad too. I'm sorry you had to endure such bigotry out there. It's tough enough being human and others try to make it even worse. I used to let it bother me but now I just go on with my life.

Yeah, I think Charlotte felt like one of the most accepting places I ever have been and that was people of all races seeming to get along. I have to warn you, as someone who has grown up on the West Coast, that the cities in the West Coast actually felt more segregated, racist and less accepting than anywhere else I have been. It seems like in the West Coast every ethnic group just hangs out with their own and lives in their own little bubbles. Of course, with gentrification that is changing, but growing up in Portland in the 90s, it was a pretty segregated city, although more tolerant than some places. Los Angeles was probably the most segregated city I ever lived in and people seem to just stay in their neighborhoods.


I know being a minority you will always have to endure bigotry and hatred, that is just how it goes. Life is tough and bigoted and idiotic people will always make life more miserable. That is the reason my grandmother had to flee Belarus in Europe before her village was systemically exterminated. And, then again, that bigotry and hatred is why I was born here and live the life I live today.


I am sorry things were so bad for you in Winston-Salem, Screenwriter. It is a beautiful looking area and I will be checking it out when I come to North Carolina. However, I think I would be better off living in Charlotte area, myself. Also, too bad to hear about the crime rate. It was the high crime rates in Knoxville and probably the lack of jobs that made me decide it was not worth the cheaper living there. I do have to say I love the beauty of the area, but putting food on the table and being in safer area is more important than being close to good hiking.


I hope you find a better and safer place to live. Even though I love the Pacific Northwest where I grew up, I overall am not a fan of the West Coast and what it has become. Not to mention the wages just are not keeping up with the rapidly rising cost of living. The mismanagement of city governments are crazy and the homeless and drug problem is no joke. In my opinion, people are also not nearly as friendly and more flaky on the West Coast. Colorado is definitely the most unfriendly, weird, aloof, pretentious and socially awkward place I ever lived. The cost of living makes no sense either. I also found out in 2007 (varies year to year), Colorado has the 6th highest suicide rate in the country and I think the high elevation does mess with your head over the long term. Considering, it is the wealthiest state on the list of high suicide rates it makes no sense either, as it is even higher than West Virginia; which is one of the most economically depressed states in the country! One thing you will notice is that outside a few exceptions like Arkansas and West Virginia, all the states with highest suicide rates are in the Rocky Mountain region of the West Coast. Nevada has a high suicide rate for obvious reasons.. LOL
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Old Yesterday, 05:36 AM
 
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And, I am going to ask you to just calm down and relax sir... It is just an internet forum, don't go apecrap on me. .Let's be civil and have a conversation.


So, about this topic of gun control, statements like this always make me a bit nauseated. All I have to say, is Adolf Hitler and Adolf Eichmann would totally agree with you and respect your views. I guess they must qualify as being intelligent (they certainly were) and sane people in your views. Indeed, it is people with your beliefs is why my relatives in Belarus had to dig their own graves and then the men, women, children and crying babies in their mother's arms, systematically were executed, by the orders of the law-enforcing government. Since my relatives were Jewish, they were not allowed to own guns by orders of the Soviet government and previously by the orders of the Tsarist regime. When the Nazis invaded the village, they would always single out the Jewish residents, round them up and execute them all. Considering, the "common sense" gun laws forbidding Jewish people from having "deadly" firearms, it was a very simple procedure to kill all the Jewish residents and the Nazis succeeded and wiping out a good portion of the Jewish population in the Pale of Settlement regions of Europe.

You seem to be so angry about all the people being killed in these shootings, but you don't seem to care about all the innocent people massacred by the orders of the government. More people were killed in my grandmother's village in one day than all the mass shootings in America combined. But, Adolf Hitler would be very accepting and supporting of your ideologies of gun control and the dangers of law-abiding citizens possessing deadly weapons that can be used to protect their families, children, friends, businesses , homes.

BTW, here is a quote from a National Socialist leader who I am sure you might respect, as he advocates the same type of ideology about gun control as you do, his name was Heinrich Himmler and he was the leading commander of the Schutzstaffel (Elite Paramilitary Branch of the Nazi Party) and one of the highest leaders of the Nazi Party:
“Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA -- ordinary citizens don't need guns, as their having guns doesn't serve the State.”

Anyhow, I thought you would admire the rationality, level-headedness and sanity of the Nazi party. If I am labelled insane and irrational by you, then that is an honor; as the people who you consider sane, rational and respectable, murdered half of my people and all my grandmother's village. So, I take it as an honor to be insane, knowing that I can protect myself and family against tyranny.

BTW, the US government murdered more Native Americans at the Wounded Knee massacre of 1890 than all the mass shootings in our country combined. What was the crime of these Native Americans? Their crime according to the US government at the time was being Native Americans and illegally possessing firearms. Native Americans were not allowed to own firearms at the time. However, the Native Americans, after being pushed off of their reservations, getting screwed in bad land deals, etc decided that they should have the same rights as other Americans, including 2nd Amendment rights to keep and bear arms. Well, the US government did not agree and ended up massacring over 300 Lakota Sioux men, women, children and even babies. This was one of the first Mass Shootings in American history and it was committed by the US government. I suppose if the government commits the mass murders its acceptable, but



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wounded_Knee_Massacre


Governments (including US government) have committed more mass shootings against their citizens than all the mass shootings (which the media loves to blow out of proportion) committed by nutjobs in our country since the beginning of our country's foundations.


But, as the former Minister of Nazi Propaganda, Joesph Goebbels, would say:
'Make the lie big, keep it simple, keep saying it and eventually they will believe it'


Please keep believing everything the media feeds you.. There is no need to think for yourself, but just believe what you are being told and please, never question the information if it is from the "reputable" news source.


As far as prayers being useless, I will say your gun control measures will be more useless and will only help protect criminals (who care less about your gun laws) and tyrants who use disarmed and weakened population to promote their tyrannical agenda. If gun control was so effective, why do countries with some of the strictest gun control also have some of the highest murder rates in the world? People need to stop comparing USA to Japan or other countries with a very compliant, submissive and generally less aggressive population. Mexico, Venezuela, Brazil, Russia, etc have some of the strictest gun control in the world, yet also have some of the highest homicide rates int he world and surpass the USA by a long shot. In the 1950s, the USA had much more lenient gun laws (you could mail-order your gun from Sears) and higher amounts of gun ownership and much less crime per capita. Even kids would bring their hunting rifles to school and go hunting after class. Most of the crime in the USA is committed in crime-ridden inner cities by felons in possession of illegal weapons and usually is a result of gang and drug violence. End the drug war and I have a feeling you will drop homicides many more times than trying to ban guns, which has proven to fail. It is just a feel-good measure that will only make crime worse and empower criminals.



BTW, I highly doubt you are a North Carolina native and bet you may be a transplant; but, hey, you could be a native and please accept my apologies if my suspicions are wrong here.


P.S.
I have to say that I believe you are violating all the City Data TOS with personal attacks, name calling, etc, but it appears this subforum is not frequently moderated, so I will just chime on the subject of gun control, since it did strike a nerve. My goal is to abide by City Data TOS and avoid personal attacks, name-calling, insults and everything else that violates these terms. IF you request, I can post you a copy of the City Data TOS, which I have printed out and review frequently to make sure I am in accordance. After reading several posts on this forum, I can see liberally calling people you don't like names, seems to be commonplace here, so I guess I will just accept it, but I cannot partake in the name-calling or personal attacks.
And thus Godwin's Law, the epitome of strawman arguments, rears its ugly head.
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Old Yesterday, 08:04 AM
 
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And thus Godwin's Law, the epitome of strawman arguments, rears its ugly head.
Whoa whoa whoa! Who are you calling UGLY!?!??!?!?!?!
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Old Yesterday, 12:07 PM
 
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Whoa whoa whoa! Who are you calling UGLY!?!??!?!?!?!
LOL. Touche!
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Old Yesterday, 12:52 PM
 
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And thus Godwin's Law, the epitome of strawman arguments, rears its ugly head.

Ah, pull the ol' Godwin's Law defense when one cannot defend his claims in a debate . Some people just refuse accept their arguments are flawed and cannot be upheld through discussion and instead will denigrate and disparage the opponent of the debate rather than address the issue at hand.

I could have actually have used several other examples of "honorable" leaders who share your views of rational, sane and common-sense gun laws, such as Stalin, Lenin, Pol-Pot Mao Zedung, etc, but I figured I would just use the most reputed in recent history. In such a utopian society of full government control of firearms, I am somewhat shocked you don't venerate National Socialist government's political ideologies, leaving eugenic stuff aside. Although powerful governments, just have that bad habit of abusing power.

Please carry on.. I should have guessed most discussions with a person like you would be one-sided.

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Old Yesterday, 01:04 PM
 
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Out of all the places you've listed and that we've discussed before, I think the Triad is probably your most economical in terms of rental prices and such.

It's also big enough to have good medical (Wake Forest Health), and a reasonable amount of shopping and things to do without having to go somewhere else. If you do want to go somewhere, you're a very reasonable distance from both Raleigh and Charlotte, much closer than Knoxville is to anywhere else. The location of either Greensboro (closer to Raleigh) or Winston-Salem (closer to Charlotte/mountains) is pretty good.

Crime is what it is. The South, overall, is high crime. As long as you aren't living in visibly sketchy areas or engaging in conduct that typically leads to crime, you should be OK.
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Old Yesterday, 02:30 PM
 
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Ah, pull the ol' Godwin's Law defense when one cannot defend his claims in a debate . Some people just refuse accept their arguments are flawed and cannot be upheld through discussion and instead will denigrate and disparage the opponent of the debate rather than address the issue at hand.

I could have actually have used several other examples of "honorable" leaders who share your views of rational, sane and common-sense gun laws, such as Stalin, Lenin, Pol-Pot Mao Zedung, etc, but I figured I would just use the most reputed in recent history. In such a utopian society of full government control of firearms, I am somewhat shocked you don't venerate National Socialist government's political ideologies, leaving eugenic stuff aside. Although powerful governments, just have that bad habit of abusing power.

Please carry on.. I should have guessed most discussions with a person like you would be one-sided.
Its all good...you like having children murdered in schools. Congratulations! I'm sure you're happy every time a new massacre takes place.

Anyway, you're not going to change my mind and I'm not going to change yours, plus its off topic for this thread. I'd suggest we both go our separate ways at this point.
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Old Today, 01:23 AM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado
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Out of all the places you've listed and that we've discussed before, I think the Triad is probably your most economical in terms of rental prices and such.

It's also big enough to have good medical (Wake Forest Health), and a reasonable amount of shopping and things to do without having to go somewhere else. If you do want to go somewhere, you're a very reasonable distance from both Raleigh and Charlotte, much closer than Knoxville is to anywhere else. The location of either Greensboro (closer to Raleigh) or Winston-Salem (closer to Charlotte/mountains) is pretty good.

Crime is what it is. The South, overall, is high crime. As long as you aren't living in visibly sketchy areas or engaging in conduct that typically leads to crime, you should be OK.
Hey Serious Conversation,
Good to hear from you again. I know that Triad would be more affordable, but I am going to be needing to get some kind of work sometime next year while I try to launch my online software business or try to get involved in freelancing or whatever. I completed my lay-down computer workstation and its working very well for me and allowing me to work long hours on the computer again. In fact, I can literally work many more hours on the computer and feel very good doing so now with my lay-down workstation than even before I became disabled. I'm pretty happy and in fact I am upgrading my lay-down workstation to make it even better.

With that being said, I doubt any company will hire me, since working lay-down (despite making me 10 times better worker) would probably violate company culture.

So, I probably will need to be in a place with more jobs. I was comparing the rents of Charlotte to Triad and even though the Triad is cheaper, it is not significantly cheaper than Charlotte, especially if I live in suburbs like Gastonia, Concord or even farther out in South our outer parts of Charlotte.

I am thinking Charlotte will probably be my best bet now while I try to get myself back on my feet. If I end up high and dry because of my disability, I probably need to be in a place with more jobs. Charlotte is still pretty affordable compared to other places with economies on its scale.

I will be coming in couple weeks to check out places, but will probably spend a day (if I can get the time ) to check out Winston-Salem. I have to say of the three metros, the Triad definitely appears to be the most scenic and a bit closer to the mountains.

I'm hoping I can find a place in Gaston county, so I can be not far from the city, but also closer to the mountains and Gaston county I hear has retained more of its North Carolinan identity compared to Charlotte or Raleigh, yet still has the advantage of being near the city.

As far as crime, well, I think its a bit of a misconception that the South has super high crime compared to the rest of USA. Yes, the South (esp Deep South, like Louisiana and Alabama) have some high crime cities. Yet, the Midwest and parts of Northeast have the most dangerous cities in the country. Driving through parts of St. Louis you would have thought you could be driving through Fallujah after the invasion. And, just last night, a bunch of thieves broke into several cars in my complex and my neighbors lost $1000s of stuff.

I am not doubting the South is high crime, but crime as you say can be based on certain scenarios. Even though you have less of a chance of being murdered in Seattle than in Nashville, the chances of having your house or car broken into or stolen are much higher. The drug and homeless problem in Northwest has led to a crime epidemic that affects every resident rather than just people in certain neighborhoods and involved in certain activities.

That is not to say there isn't crime issues. I decided against Knoxville, because I was concerned with crime rate and perhaps lack of jobs. I may end up broke if my business ventures fail and really don't know the city well. I have no clue what it would be like to be struggling to make it there, but here it can be rough. I think I would have more opportunities in Charlotte.
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Old Today, 01:30 AM
 
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Its all good...you like having children murdered in schools. Congratulations! I'm sure you're happy every time a new massacre takes place.

Anyway, you're not going to change my mind and I'm not going to change yours, plus its off topic for this thread. I'd suggest we both go our separate ways at this point.

I believe the "Gun Free Zones" you support are responsible for the deaths of these children as most of these massacres occur in places were only criminals are allowed to be armed.


And, yes, I would appreciate we could just agree to disagree and get the thread back on track.. I'm glad we could cordially end this argument.
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Old Today, 03:08 AM
 
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I believe the "Gun Free Zones" you support are responsible for the deaths of these children as most of these massacres occur in places were only criminals are allowed to be armed.


And, yes, I would appreciate we could just agree to disagree and get the thread back on track.. I'm glad we could cordially end this argument.
I never said anything about supporting "gun free zones". You have a bad habit of assuming things.

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