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Old 07-22-2019, 04:24 AM
 
Location: Wilmington, NC
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Interesting.

However, Greensboro is finaly on the actual path towards real organic growth as the jobs continue to come in these days, They must not rely on annexation, that is essentialy cheating, and not really "growth", that could have been this cities downfall if Greensboro had remained complacent and only relied on annexation to put a bandaid on their "3rd largest" status, do you remember the last city leaders of Greensboro, or the last partnership? Those were "old money" individuals that would have "probably" let big opportunities like Honda Aircraft corp, Honda jet, Haeco, ARCH, kontoor, Fedex Hub , Centric brands or Publix go without much of a fight.

That's thousands of jobs right there that couldv'e been lost, and many lost opportunities for future growth gone out the window. Securing Greensboro as a failure and an example of a city to avoid becoming. Thank god, that's not the case.

Jobs grow cities. It's not about what can stop durham, it's about what we can learn from durham. I can care less about durham passing greensboro in population, what i care about are Greensboro and the triad as a whole keeping up and expanding on the momentum we are starting.. the triad has potential to be the next big thing, articles like this are a good indication of that...we just have to keep pushing the envelope and thinking outside the box.
Very well said, i agree.
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Old 07-22-2019, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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Interesting.

However, Greensboro is finaly on the actual path towards real organic growth as the jobs continue to come in these days, They must not rely on annexation, that is essentialy cheating, and not really "growth", that could have been this cities downfall if Greensboro had remained complacent and only relied on annexation to put a bandaid on their "3rd largest" status, do you remember the last city leaders of Greensboro, or the last partnership? Those were "old money" individuals that would have "probably" let big opportunities like Honda Aircraft corp, Honda jet, Haeco, ARCH, kontoor, Fedex Hub , Centric brands or Publix go without much of a fight.

That's thousands of jobs right there that couldv'e been lost, and many lost opportunities for future growth gone out the window. Securing Greensboro as a failure and an example of a city to avoid becoming. Thank god, that's not the case.

Jobs grow cities. It's not about what can stop durham, it's about what we can learn from durham. I can care less about durham passing greensboro in population, what i care about are Greensboro and the triad as a whole keeping up and expanding on the momentum we are starting.. the triad has potential to be the next big thing, articles like this are a good indication of that...we just have to keep pushing the envelope and thinking outside the box.

Good points. Organic job growth is key
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Old 07-25-2019, 04:08 AM
 
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Default Volvo

Donít forget Volvo who employs 2000 people here..
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Old 07-27-2019, 06:12 PM
 
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Interesting.

However, Greensboro is finaly on the actual path towards real organic growth as the jobs continue to come in these days, They must not rely on annexation, that is essentialy cheating, and not really "growth", that could have been this cities downfall if Greensboro had remained complacent and only relied on annexation to put a bandaid on their "3rd largest" status, do you remember the last city leaders of Greensboro, or the last partnership? Those were "old money" individuals that would have "probably" let big opportunities like Honda Aircraft corp, Honda jet, Haeco, ARCH, kontoor, Fedex Hub , Centric brands or Publix go without much of a fight.

That's thousands of jobs right there that couldv'e been lost, and many lost opportunities for future growth gone out the window. Securing Greensboro as a failure and an example of a city to avoid becoming. Thank god, that's not the case.
I think this is a bit of an exaggeration because even if those companies were to set up shop outside the city limits, they would most likely be in the suburbs and Greensboro would still be the major beneficiary of growth due to those companies. Plus companies like the ones you mentioned aren't exactly known to spur urban residential development. But you will see lots of tract housing subdivisions spring up along the fringes on old farmland and such and I'm sure the suburbs have captured some of that growth. The bulk of the complaints would likely be over loss of municipal tax revenue but otherwise, local leaders see economic trends on a regional level for the most part and not on a municipal level.

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Jobs grow cities. It's not about what can stop durham, it's about what we can learn from durham. I can care less about durham passing greensboro in population, what i care about are Greensboro and the triad as a whole keeping up and expanding on the momentum we are starting.. the triad has potential to be the next big thing, articles like this are a good indication of that...we just have to keep pushing the envelope and thinking outside the box.
The overall health of cities is what counts the most. Population growth is typically an indicator of such but it doesn't have to be gangbusters, lightning speed growth.
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Old 07-29-2019, 05:47 PM
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Location: Raleigh
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Why does Greensboro feel the need to protect its "3rd largest city" status by "stopping" Durham ? What difference does it make if Durham becomes larger than Greensboro, or stays smaller than Greensboro ? Nobody really cares.

Durham is experiencing explosive population / job growth for several reasons:

1. It's home to a top ten national research university.
2. It's very close to two other nationally-ranked research universities.
3. It's part of the Research Triangle Park.
4. It has done an excellent job in generating organic job growth in both the Life Science and IT fields.
5. It is constructing a new downtown Innovation District which will eventually rival anything in the country, when complete.
6. Basically, Raleigh, Cary, Morrisville, RTP and Durham are growing into one large entity.


Greensboro has an excellent base with Honda Jet, and that's the area where efforts & energy need to be focused. The FedEx and Publix jobs are nice, but they tend to be "one offs" and don't generate additional or high paying jobs. I also think that it's a waste to keep pouring money in the "megasite in Randolph County. Very unlikely that a car plant will ever be built there.
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Old 07-29-2019, 05:55 PM
 
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Why does Greensboro feel the need to protect its "3rd largest city" status by "stopping" Durham ?
"Greensboro" doesn't. A couple of over the top posters on here do.

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I also think that it's a waste to keep pouring money in the "megasite in Randolph County. Very unlikely that a car plant will ever be built there.
I disagree. The megasite can accommodate many more industries other than automobile manufacturing.
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Old 07-29-2019, 06:09 PM
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Location: Raleigh
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What other industries, other than automobile manufacturing, are being targeted for these so-called megasites ? Not just the Greensboro, but any of them ? There are empty "megasites" all over the country; several in North Carolina.

Merck recently announced a major expansion to their existing Durham pharmaceutical facilities, but I don't see anything like that going to the Randolph County site. Is Dell Computers coming back ? I suspect Dell makes their stuff in China and South Korea.

Any large "megasite" factory of the future will be highly automated, with few human workers.
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Old 07-29-2019, 06:29 PM
 
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What other industries, other than automobile manufacturing, are being targeted for these so-called megasites ?
Any type of advanced manufacturing...appliances, electronics, tire manufacturing, pharmaceuticals, aerospace, etc.
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Old 07-29-2019, 08:29 PM
 
Location: North Greensboro
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Why does Greensboro feel the need to protect its "3rd largest city" status by "stopping" Durham ? What difference does it make if Durham becomes larger than Greensboro, or stays smaller than Greensboro ? Nobody really cares.

Durham is experiencing explosive population / job growth for several reasons:

1. It's home to a top ten national research university.
2. It's very close to two other nationally-ranked research universities.
3. It's part of the Research Triangle Park.
4. It has done an excellent job in generating organic job growth in both the Life Science and IT fields.
5. It is constructing a new downtown Innovation District which will eventually rival anything in the country, when complete.
6. Basically, Raleigh, Cary, Morrisville, RTP and Durham are growing into one large entity.


Greensboro has an excellent base with Honda Jet, and that's the area where efforts & energy need to be focused. The FedEx and Publix jobs are nice, but they tend to be "one offs" and don't generate additional or high paying jobs. I also think that it's a waste to keep pouring money in the "megasite in Randolph County. Very unlikely that a car plant will ever be built there.
i Agree, Greensboro needs to focus on it's main stregnths, aerospace and advanced manufacturing are whats moving the economy out of the blue collar furniture and textile age, focusing on stregnthening core companies should take priority over luring mega companies to dessolate megasites. However publix was a nice example of what can happen when everything is in the right place and will nodoubt be a major cataylst in further developments popping up around the site area.

Honda Aircraft company is the big one, as we push forward into more larger jets like the elite, and with a growing intererst in even larger commercial jets in the near future, Honda jet is going to become a rather large economic engine, HJ has proved extremely popular with fleet sales, which is an excelent strategy, however our ceo Michimasa Fujino said HJ will have a workforce north of 4000 by 2023. We are half way there(i work at Honda Jet).

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Old 07-30-2019, 04:31 AM
 
Location: Danville, VA
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What other industries, other than automobile manufacturing, are being targeted for these so-called megasites ? Not just the Greensboro, but any of them ? There are empty "megasites" all over the country; several in North Carolina.
Triangle Tire is building a plant at the Kingsboro megasite in Edgecombe County and Corning is building a distribution center beside it.

Corning warehouse starts to take shape - Rocky Mount Telegram

Like Edward said, megasites are also good for things that doesn’t involve auto manufacturing.
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