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Old 01-05-2011, 10:21 AM
 
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We can only hope the deficient SCDOT does a much more efficient and higher quality job of managing this project than the latest repaving of I-85, which remains unfinished after much too long a duration.

I have SERIOUS questions about that. They paved level over level over level for months now......none of the levels match up at bridges or entrance / exit ramps. All the constructions signs are now gone like the project is finished. If the project is finished, then we should ban together and bring a lawsuit against SCDOT or the contractor that did the work. The finished / semi-finished product is a joke. Government waste and lack of oversite at its finest.
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Old 01-05-2011, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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We can only hope the deficient SCDOT does a much more efficient and higher quality job of managing this project than the latest repaving of I-85, which remains unfinished after much too long a duration.
They stopped paving I-85 for the remaning of Winter due to cold temperatures. Sloan Construction will restart work on it in the Spring. Asphalt will not cure properly if it's too cold.
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Old 01-05-2011, 10:33 AM
 
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They stopped paving I-85 for the remaning of Winter due to cold temperatures. Sloan Construction will restart work on it in the Spring. Asphalt will not cure properly if it's too cold.
I realize that and had also heard the reason for the current delay, however they were extremely inefficient throughout the summer months, not to mention the terrible amount of toxic dust they left on the highway after using an asphalt grinder (the kind used to level an uneven road) night after night (with too many long breaks between periods of work).
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Old 01-05-2011, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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I realize that and had also heard the reason for the current delay, however they were extremely inefficient throughout the summer months, not to mention the terrible amount of toxic dust they left on the highway after using an asphalt grinder (the kind used to level an uneven road) night after night (with too many long breaks between periods of work).
Can't argue with that. I'm also not sure though why they didn't make the pavement in every lane the same level before Winter hit. I have filed a complaint with the SCDOT before. Maybe I should do it again in regards to this project.
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Old 01-05-2011, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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From Sloan Construction:

Paving is not complete on I-85 in Greenville and Anderson Ctys. Winter temperatures during our night time working hours do not allow paving operations under 60 degrees F per our South Carolina DOT Contract Specifications. Temperature is the single most critical factor in achieving roadway densities for long pavement life. Bear with us and you will see construction activity again (at night for the traveling public’s safety) when the weather warms back up in March. If you want to see what the finished product will look like take a ride further south on I-85 around mile marker 14 or so. You will find a great riding pavement that meets very stringent cross slope requirements all done at night time while the rest of the world sleeps.
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Old 01-05-2011, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Paving is not complete on I-85 in Greenville and Anderson Ctys. Winter temperatures during our night time working hours do not allow paving operations under 60 degrees F per our South Carolina DOT Contract Specifications. Temperature is the single most critical factor in achieving roadway densities for long pavement life. Bear with us and you will see construction activity again (at night for the traveling public’s safety) when the weather warms back up in March. If you want to see what the finished product will look like take a ride further south on I-85 around mile marker 14 or so. You will find a great riding pavement that meets very stringent cross slope requirements all done at night time while the rest of the world sleeps.
60 degrees??? Are you (SCDOT) freakin' KIDDING me?
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Old 01-05-2011, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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60 degrees??? Are you (SCDOT) freakin' KIDDING me?
I don't think SCDOT can control the laws of physics.
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Old 01-05-2011, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I don't think SCDOT can control the laws of physics.
That's just not acceptable. I do believe the state of the highway paving art MUST have progressed past restrictions that severe in the year 2011.
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Old 01-05-2011, 12:17 PM
 
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I wonder what happens in summertime - hopefully they can work if it's over 80 degrees. lol
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Old 01-05-2011, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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Some points to make:

Climate change means higher highs and lower lows, in terms of regional weather/air temps, whether the cause is anthropomorphic or not.

Asphalt is asphalt. Concrete is still concrete. They cool at the same rate today as they did years ago. While there may be some material out there that can be laid down in lower temps and remain stable enough and hard enough for the top layer of highway construction, costs certainly make it a bad choice for paving highways. I am sure the same people that are complaining on this thread today about slow construction would be complaining 10X more in a couple years when the highway crumbles because it was laid down in too cold of temperatures. Talk about inefficiency and tax dollars wasted!

The temps have nothing to do with the workers doing the work. They'd be happy to be making the money in cold or hot temps. The restrictions are there because of the effects the temperatures have on the materials, not the people. lol

FWIW, I used to live high in the Rockies (pun intended), and the window for highway construction and repair was 2-3 months at most, sometimes less.

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