Greenville ranks high on so many lists...... (York: fit in, house)

[Art123]

Originally Posted by jbar1

Let me beat all the naysayers on this one. Any and all the claims can be disputed one way or another. But the fact that Greenville is showing up on all these lists has to say something. I personally feel that Greenville has and is positioning itself to be a first class city. Is it there yet? I would say no, but well on it's way.

I think you are right overall. I just think Greenville has way too far to go for us to wait around. The changes are somewhat superficial and thin. Nothing is really going to change the extremely conservative culture here. It can be quite a hostile culture at times, as this forum can reflect sometimes.

I've lived in a couple of places that make, or used to make, these lists on a regular basis. Some cities stop showing up all of a sudden. I don't think much really changes to make them not show up, except that the city's leaders feel like they no longer need to actively market their city.

[gsupstate]

Originally Posted by jbar1

Let me beat all the naysayers on this one. Any and all the claims can be disputed one way or another. But the fact that Greenville is showing up on all these lists has to say something. I personally feel that Greenville has and is positioning itself to be a first class city. Is it there yet? I would say no, but well on it's way.

Agreed.

Two notes and both are wins for Greenville:

1. Greenville is NOT asking to be on these list. That is just a silly idea. "Hey Mens Journal, we're Greenville and we want to make your top 10 list"...... Errrrr, don't think so.

2. If there are some of the lists that Greenville can force it's way on, or "stuff the ballot box", then that is a GREAT attitude to have and the "can do" attitude I fell in love with when I first came to Greenville. A city and citizens that wants to be the best......wants to make the top 10......that's a great attitude to see. Would much rather see love for a city than apathy (which is the attitude in many cities, including some in SC).

[redcliffe]

Originally Posted by Art123

I think you are right overall. I just think Greenville has way too far to go for us to wait around. The changes are somewhat superficial and thin. Nothing is really going to change the extremely conservative culture here. It can be quite a hostile culture at times, as this forum can reflect sometimes.

I've lived in a couple of places that make, or used to make, these lists on a regular basis. Some cities stop showing up all of a sudden. I don't think much really changes to make them not show up, except that the city's leaders feel like they no longer need to actively market their city.

Would it be better if it were extremely liberal?

[ckeegan]

Originally Posted by redcliffe

Would it be better if it were extremely liberal?

Clearly, because nothing is "superficial" or "thin" in those places. Every extra tax dollar that they collect is completely accounted for, and used in the most beneficial way for the residents.

[gsupstate]

Originally Posted by ckeegan

clearly, because nothing is "superficial" or "thin" in those places. Every extra tax dollar that they collect is completely accounted for, and used in the most beneficial way for the residents.

lmao!!!!! rep to you!

[Vasily]

Originally Posted by Art123

Nothing is really going to change the extremely conservative culture here. It can be quite a hostile culture at times, as this forum can reflect sometimes.

Honestly, as a person who's considering Greenville as a possible future home, I don't know what to make of statements like this (both in this forum and others I'm visiting).

I'd call myself a fiscal conservative and social liberal on certain issues (but traditionalist on others), with moderate libertarian leanings. Frankly, when someone says a town is "progressive" it immediately goes off my short list of places I might move to. I'm not sure why you think conservative means hostile, since some of the most hostile places I've seen on the internet have been progressive forums. So, what do "extremely conservative" and "hostile" mean? If you mean the racist comments in this forum about "thugs" and such in Greenville, I've heard worse from "liberal Democrats" here in Illinois who apparently think it's OK to say terrible things about people of color ... as long as there are none of them around.

[gsupstate]

Originally Posted by ckeegan

Greenville is the 5th Most Fun, Affordable City according to Better Homes & Gardens.

Better Homes & Gardens along "with real estate data company Onboard Informatics, evaluated 6,106 Zip Codes where the median home price is within 20 percent of the state’s median home price. It then selected the 25 areas with the greatest number of bars and restaurants."

I think the most interesting aspect of the top 25 is that it almost entirely consists of tourism destinations and college towns. I wouldn't describe Greenville as either one, so we're basically just awesome on our own.

America's Most Fun, Affordable Cities: Good Times, Low Prices - BusinessWeek

I just saw this on WYFF. Great to see!
Business Week: Greenville Makes Top 5 List - Greenville News Story - WYFF Greenville (http://www.wyff4.com/r/28840032/detail.html - broken link)

[nighttown]

These list (I have no idea if they are biased or not and it is very possible that they might be...if nothing else it could be just lazy journalism) can be used by people for some nice self gratification, but the main thing that makes me upbeat about these list is that it could possibly help new jobs show up and right now that is really what it is all about.

[Hometownteri]

Greenville is continuing to grow and improve as opposed to dying and people moving out like a lot of cities are doing.

[Caymon]

I lived in Greenville for nearly 12 years before moving away to NYC for work four years ago. I'm moving back this year and cannot wait. Greenville has such a fantastic mix of culture, natural resources, activity opportunities, and a relatively strong economy that it's a tough place to beat (if you dig the warm weather you'll get in the summer...but then that's life in the South).

I've missed it since I left and I cannot wait to come back this Spring. I'll see you soon, Greenville!