Great Article about Greenville's Craft Beer Scene (Simpsonville: wage, to live)

[g-man430]

Greed will imprison us all.

[Made_it_To_the_Metroplex]

Originally Posted by g-man430

Greed will imprison us all.

What's THAT all about?? lol

[g-man430]

Originally Posted by UpstateBooster

What's THAT all about?? lol

There's people in this world who feel their city is better than that city. This greed or envy will cause us all to suffer at the end of the day.

[GSP101]

Originally Posted by Greenville

I don't understand why you have deemed yourself the one who decides who can and cannot have a specific opinion or viewpoint, especially when it comes to Greenville. Whenever something positive comes up for Greenville, especially in relation to another city, you are quick to jump in and remind us that other cities are great (and in most cases, better) and that Greenville does not compare favorably to them in terms of educational attainment and average income (and when applicable, population). Why do you feel the need do this?!?

Whether you agree or not, Greenville has developed a nice reputation for its foodie scene. There are some excellent restaurants there. Nobody said that these restaurants are better than everywhere else, but just that Greenville has carved out a niche in this area which it is starting to be acknowledged for. Many restauranteurs in Greenville feel this way, and have publicly stated how pleased they are with the food and beverage scene in Greenville. Many of these people have moved to Greenville from other places. Since you claim to be a booster for the state of SC, you should be pleased with this.

So if you can please enlighten us as to why you feel the need to contest so many pieces of information here, in the Greenville forum, in discussions among Greenville natives, residents, and fans, please do so. I honestly don't see what the harm is in our discussion, even if it (gasp!) paints Greenville in a positive light in relation to other metros.

Greenville, first, if you read my posts, they specifically point out why I brought up some metrics. The guy who opened the beer store claimed that Columbia would not understand his product, a quote which was less than flattering about Columbia. When I read it in the Greenville News, I read the paper to keep up with the area where I grew up (I guess that means I am qualified to post on your board among the natives, residents and fans), I did not agree and thought it was a cheap shot. However, when the resident Columbia basher posted it on here claiming that Greenville was "light years" ahead of other cities, I brought up the question. What exactly is the harm in that? If you are sensitive to real economic data, sorry, but I think it is a valid question. Can you answer why a city with good metrics and an educated population would not understand growlers? Another question that I have which went unanswered is why there is this constant bashing of Columbia by Greenville residents, I don't understand, it is childish. The theme that I see with you and others is that if you cheer Greenville, ignore the problems, and bash Columbia, you are good to go.

I don't disagree that Greenville has some nice restaurants, never said otherwise. However, being a foodie city is a little strong. I am sure the local restaurants are proud of their establishments but, there needs to be more than a few restaurants to become a foodie city. Based on some comments here, seems as though people are leaving Greenville for better opportunities in the restaurant industry as well.

As for looking at Greenville in a positive light, you bring up my original question, why do folks in Greenville seem to think that they always have to look better than another metro? What does it matter? If you are happy where you are living, that's great. But, constantly beating the drum about how Greenville is so loved by many and is better than Columbia, Charleston, Charlotte, Raleigh, Atlanta, etc... gets old. Depending on the discussion thread, Greenville Chamber websites and the Greenville Realtors, I see that Greenville has 1.3m residents v. 1.5 for Charlotte, Greenville was picked over Charlotte for a Whole Foods, Greenville has developed a better downtown than "insert city name'', Greenville has "insert store name" and your city does not, Greenville is a world leader in energy efficiency, Greenville is developing a game changing inland port that will rival Atlanta & Charlotte, Greenville is building a world class development downtown, Greenville has done all of this without the government (ask Hughes if this is true), Greenville has more disposable income than Charlotte, Greenville is leading SC in growth, etc.....Look, Greenville has some outstanding companies, I drive an X5 made in the upstate, and has made strong advances. But, if you are constantly comparing yourself with other metros and trying to be better, then looking at metrics is not trying to be the "one who decides who can and cannot have a specific opinion or viewpoint", it is looking at what is real. Why is that hard to understand??? Any ideas Greenville?

[NoodlesKnowles]

Originally Posted by GSP101

As for looking at Greenville in a positive light, you bring up my original question, why do folks in Greenville seem to think that they always have to look better than another metro? What does it matter? If you are happy where you are living, that's great. But, constantly beating the drum about how Greenville is so loved by many and is better than Columbia, Charleston, Charlotte, Raleigh, Atlanta, etc... gets old. Depending on the discussion thread, Greenville Chamber websites and the Greenville Realtors, I see that Greenville has 1.3m residents v. 1.5 for Charlotte, Greenville was picked over Charlotte for a Whole Foods, Greenville has developed a better downtown than "insert city name'', Greenville has "insert store name" and your city does not, Greenville is a world leader in energy efficiency, Greenville is developing a game changing inland port that will rival Atlanta & Charlotte, Greenville is building a world class development downtown, Greenville has done all of this without the government (ask Hughes if this is true), Greenville has more disposable income than Charlotte, Greenville is leading SC in growth, etc.....Look, Greenville has some outstanding companies, I drive an X5 made in the upstate, and has made strong advances. But, if you are constantly comparing yourself with other metros and trying to be better, then looking at metrics is not trying to be the "one who decides who can and cannot have a specific opinion or viewpoint", it is looking at what is real. Why is that hard to understand??? Any ideas Greenville?

Easy. Greenville is seen as the little guy, sandwiched between two huge metros. Its only natural to want to boast when we get something that a larger town might have, we feel we are an up and coming city. Do I think we're better than those larger cities that you mentioned? In some ways, yes. do I think we have a loooong way to go to have some of the great things those cities may already have? yes.

Who doesn't want their city to be better? Maybe thats why we have a city that so many feel is better than others, because we are constantly hoping/working/excited towards having more.

By the way, go greenville beer scene! I am a total beer snob and although I agree we may be a bit behind on this, the beer scene here has grown by leaps and bounds in just the last 2 years here.

[GSP101]

Originally Posted by NoodlesKnowles

Easy. Greenville is seen as the little guy, sandwiched between two huge metros. Its only natural to want to boast when we get something that a larger town might have, we feel we are an up and coming city. Do I think we're better than those larger cities that you mentioned? In some ways, yes. do I think we have a loooong way to go to have some of the great things those cities may already have? yes.

Who doesn't want their city to be better? Maybe thats why we have a city that so many feel is better than others, because we are constantly hoping/working/excited towards having more.

By the way, go greenville beer scene! I am a total beer snob and although I agree we may be a bit behind on this, the beer scene here has grown by leaps and bounds in just the last 2 years here.

Thanks for answering noodles. I think it is great the folks want the city to grow and have more amenities. Greenville has been less than shy about promoting the city for decades. The only thing I don't understand is the constant "we are better than city "insert name here" and the constant trashing of Columbia. Maybe a little is city pride, not sure. as much as Greenville the poster hates it, here in Charlotte, our downtown has been transformed in the past 15 years into one with multiple 50 story+ buildings, multiple performing arts venues, multiple museums, an NBA arena, new parks, a coming baseball stadium, high rise housing and even a food school with thousands of students (sorry for stealing them Charleston). Even with that, you don't have folks, The Charlotte Chamber, Charlotte Board of Realtors, or The Charlotte Observer constantly comparing Charlotte with other cities using metrics that are baseless. And, you don't have forum members taking up residence on other city boards trashing the city with a host of Charlotte residents, all of whom have never lived in the target city. Until Gsupstate was banned, he and other Greenville residents stayed on Columbia boards picking the city apart down to cracks in the sidewalk. Almost all of the threads started were baseless and could have been written about any city in the country. I asked the question related to beer on this thread after Gsupstate brought up this guys comments about Columbia not knowing what this type of establishment is, another cheap shot at Columbia from Greenville. Simply put, there are other cities in the state and Carolina's who are growing faster and have more but brag less, it is interesting to know why.

That does not mean the city is not doing a great job, it is just a question of why people can be happy with what they have.

As for beer, I have no clue. I have not had a beer in years, maybe that make me less cultured in the eyes of some and this beer store owner. I just never developed a taste for the stuff. Just curious, how much are the growlers?

[NoodlesKnowles]

Originally Posted by GSP101

As for beer, I have no clue. I have not had a beer in years, maybe that make me less cultured in the eyes of some and this beer store owner. I just never developed a taste for the stuff. Just curious, how much are the growlers?

Growlers are usually only $5 to 10 dollars, depending on where you go, and how large they are. Although I was just up to philly, and they have really nice growlers at Victory brewing company that were $15, but to fill it was actually cheaper.
To fill it with beer can vary immensely in price, usually depending on the rarity of the brew and the ABV(alcohol content)
For instance I bought a 32oz Growler at GBX in downtown greenville filled with Dogfish Head Paulo Santo Maron, and then filtered with maple bacon coffee in the store using a process called randallzing(developed by dogfish head) this being a one of a kind beer I paid a pretty penny for it, but let me tell you it was worth it

[Made_it_To_the_Metroplex]

Originally Posted by NoodlesKnowles

Growlers are usually only $5 to 10 dollars, depending on where you go, and how large they are. Although I was just up to philly, and they have really nice growlers at Victory brewing company that were $15, but to fill it was actually cheaper.
To fill it with beer can vary immensely in price, usually depending on the rarity of the brew and the ABV(alcohol content)
For instance I bought a 32oz Growler at GBX in downtown greenville filled with Dogfish Head Paulo Santo Maron, and then filtered with maple bacon coffee in the store using a process called randallzing(developed by dogfish head) this being a one of a kind beer I paid a pretty penny for it, but let me tell you it was worth it

WOW.... The processes beer goes thru these days!

[g-man430]

GSP101, check out the posts G Goodman Upstate (gsupstate) made at the bottom of this article: Urban Walmart in Columbia moves closer to reality - Local / Metro - TheState.com Not quite the Greenville booster you make him out to be.

[Art123]

Originally Posted by g-man430

GSP101, check out the posts G Goodman Upstate (gsupstate) made at the bottom of this article: Urban Walmart in Columbia moves closer to reality - Local / Metro - TheState.com Not quite the Greenville booster you make him out to be.

I don't think those two posters are the same person.