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Old 05-30-2013, 07:29 AM
 
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If this happens.. I moving to the Upstate IF.. it doesnt happen in Columbia....lol


SPARTANBURG: Six SC routes considered for Atlanta-to-Charlotte passenger rail service | State | The State#

Based on the routes provided.... ATL to Charlotte via the upstate is most likely.. though I would love to see Atlanta, Augusta, Columbia and Charlotte connected via passenger rail....

http://dot.ga.gov/travelingingeorgia...StudyArea.aspx

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Old 05-30-2013, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Upstate
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The route through the GSP area obviously looks like it would be the most cost efficient to build. I would like to see this happen to aleviate future traffic problems.
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Old 05-30-2013, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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My wife and I took trains into Venice each day from about 30 miles out when we went to Italy a few years ago. (we couchsurfed instead of paying for hotels - www.couchsurfing.org ) We loved it. I would love to hop on a train to CLT or ATL instead of driving. Right now, I never go to either city, because I hate the drives. Same for Columbia.

Now, if the whole family is going one place, then driving may still more cost-efficient. One person only could take the train for less than the cost of gas, I think.
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Old 05-30-2013, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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This will never happen as long as Republicans control the House.

Obama has been pushing for this for years, therefore it's a bad idea and the funding won't ever pass the House.

We're "broke," remember?

If you want highspeed rail, vote Democrat.

If you vote Republican, you obviously understand how this is a huge waste of taxpayer $$$.
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Old 05-30-2013, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Piedmont, SC
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I would definitely use this, we rarely go either direction because of traffic and time.
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Old 05-30-2013, 12:56 PM
 
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This will never happen as long as Republicans control the House.

Obama has been pushing for this for years, therefore it's a bad idea and the funding won't ever pass the House.

We're "broke," remember?

If you want highspeed rail, vote Democrat.

If you vote Republican, you obviously understand how this is a huge waste of taxpayer $$$.

I should have clarified.. that this may not be part of Obamas Highspeed Rail Plan... it seems like its being initiated by the Georgia DOT possibly in partnership with North Carolina DOT.. NCDOT already has a passenger rail service under contract with Amtrak that runs from Charlotte to NYC- Carolinian and from Charlotte to Raleigh only -Piedmont several times a day.. stopping at dozens of towns along the congested I-85 corridor.. I imagine this would be similiar with a train going from ATL to NYC and one maybe exclusively between GA and NC. I think SC would get on Board with it simply because the business interest in the Upstate may DEMAND that they do it. Additionally, they will likely be using existing tracks so the start up cost may be less than new highspeed tracks and since its just going through SC and not terminating.. most of the rolling stock and related equipment cost would be supplied by NC and GA.. SC would just have to put in a few $ since it would likely stop at existing Amtrak stations (depending on the route selected) with only maybe Anderson and Greer having to add one.. Stations should be cheap for those towns.. no more than a bus shelter with an automatic ticket machine and an asphalt platform and maybe a small surface lot for parking all of which can be leased by the City/Town from CSX or Norfolk Southern if they are using existing tracks.. They can build up from there depending on ridership...I think we should keep it simple..to avoid the politic...hell how much money did the state give Southwest or Boeing pr was it all tax breaks?.
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Old 05-30-2013, 01:13 PM
 
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This will never happen as long as Republicans control the House.

Obama has been pushing for this for years, therefore it's a bad idea and the funding won't ever pass the House.

We're "broke," remember?

If you want highspeed rail, vote Democrat.

If you vote Republican, you obviously understand how this is a huge waste of taxpayer $$$.
For once I agree with your post 100%. High speed rail is a colossal waste of taxpayers money and a typical Neo Prog boondoggle. There is zero highspeed rails in the entire nation that are profitable on their own; zero. Look at the mess in the one in California, billions of taxpayer dollars and it will go nowhere. Art is 100% correct, if you want to waste and spend even more of your money, vote democrat.
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Old 05-30-2013, 01:14 PM
 
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As an aside, I actually like highspeed rail and have used it in several countries, but I believe that the private sector should fund it, not your tax dollars.
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Old 05-30-2013, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Travelers Rest SC
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It depends upon the infrastructure in the affected cities. If there's decent mass transit, it will work. If there's no way to get around once you get there, what good is it? When I lived in CT, we took the train to NYC- everybody did. Once there, you had your choice of affordable mass transit that went everywhere. I don't know if Charlotte or Atlanta has that (I assume Atlanta does?).
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Old 05-30-2013, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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I should have clarified.. that this may not be part of Obamas Highspeed Rail Plan... it seems like its being initiated by the Georgia DOT possibly in partnership with North Carolina DOT.. NCDOT already has a passenger rail service under contract with Amtrak that runs from Charlotte to NYC- Carolinian and from Charlotte to Raleigh only -Piedmont several times a day.. stopping at dozens of towns along the congested I-85 corridor.. I imagine this would be similiar with a train going from ATL to NYC and one maybe exclusively between GA and NC. I think SC would get on Board with it simply because the business interest in the Upstate may DEMAND that they do it. Additionally, they will likely be using existing tracks so the start up cost may be less than new highspeed tracks and since its just going through SC and not terminating.. most of the rolling stock and related equipment cost would be supplied by NC and GA.. SC would just have to put in a few $ since it would likely stop at existing Amtrak stations (depending on the route selected) with only maybe Anderson and Greer having to add one.. Stations should be cheap for those towns.. no more than a bus shelter with an automatic ticket machine and an asphalt platform and maybe a small surface lot for parking all of which can be leased by the City/Town from CSX or Norfolk Southern if they are using existing tracks.. They can build up from there depending on ridership...I think we should keep it simple..to avoid the politic...hell how much money did the state give Southwest or Boeing pr was it all tax breaks?.
Whether it's Georgia DOT, SC DOT, or the Federal Rail Administration, the funding is ultimately all the same. It's all interstate traffic and it's all federal money.
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