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Old 05-29-2014, 06:21 PM
 
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Petition Pelham Place Shopping Center Petition

This petition serves to inform a grocery store chain of the needs and requests of those people who would support their store in the Pelham Place Shopping Center at 3093 S. Highway 14, Greer, S.C. 29650. Any grocery store or specialty grocery store, such as The Fresh Market, or comparable would be desirable.
There is already set up an empty Bloom/Food Lion store at the stated location. This food chain pulled all six stores from the area, including two Greer locations, Greenville, Anderson, Simpsonville, and Seneca.
There are numerous housing developments surrounding this site and includes two high demographic areas - the Eastside of Greenville (Thornblade/Sugar Creek), and Five Forks community toward Simpsonville. It is a high traffic area that is in a unique location and is 2 to 3 miles from Woodruff Road and Highway 14, which is a direct route from Greer at Highway 85 to the Simpsonville/Mauldin area.
People in the vicinity of this site must travel to Woodruff Road or Pelham Road to grocery shop.Even though it is not a rural area, there are no convenient stores accessible to serve this community.
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Old 05-29-2014, 07:02 PM
 
Location: near downtown Greenville, SC (viewing the sunset vicariously at the North Gulf Shore Beach Access)
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This would be an ideal store for Publix - frankly, I'm shocked there has been no interest with any grocer - there are some incredibly pricey neighborhoods just to the South and East of this location.
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Old 05-29-2014, 07:12 PM
 
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This would be an ideal store for Publix - frankly, I'm shocked there has been no interest with any grocer - there are some incredibly pricey neighborhoods just to the South and East of this location.
So it seems that stores really are going to Woodruff Rd just because everyone else located there.
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Old 05-29-2014, 08:02 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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At this location, Pelham-Batesville needs a traditional supermarket for necessities and convenience. Being its own area and being without food and pharmacy is failure. A specialty grocer can wait. Since Food Lion/Bloom's closing, the area has been a food desert. I mentioned it in an earlier topic: Greenville, South Carolina supermarkets and grocery stores.

Pelham Place is a very good location for a supermarket. It had the wrong supermarket in Food Lion/Bloom, a chain steadily on the decline.

Publix would do well at the location. If they were to open a store at this location, they would look to build from the ground up. I would demolish the shopping center and build anew a larger store with a drive through pharmacy, now standard in new Publix stores. I would also add a traffic signal at the entrance/exit at North Batesville Road.

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Old 05-29-2014, 08:22 PM
 
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Seems a Publix at that location would just poach business from the Five Forks store and the store at S. Batesville & The Parkway.

Seems like it might be a good location for Ingles, considering they really don't have any location in that area.
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Old 05-29-2014, 08:33 PM
 
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Seems a Publix at that location would just poach business from the Five Forks store and the store at S. Batesville & The Parkway.

Seems like it might be a good location for Ingles, considering they really don't have any location in that area.
No, Publix stores 530 (Publix at Thornblade) and 35 (Five Forks Plaza) do enough business on their own. Having a store in the Pelham-Batesville area and having no interference with other stores is not a problem.

Ingle's Markets would not locate a new store at this location. If they intend on opening an 80,000 square feet store with adjacent fuel center, they will look at Pelham Road at Garlington Road and south Greer for future stores. They are in a uphill climb for forgetting about eastern Greenville County for store sites for several years.
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Old 05-29-2014, 09:25 PM
 
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No sense to have a Publix there. There are three Publix within 4-5 miles of that spot. Publix on the Parkway, Five Forks, and the Publix on Woodruff/Butler is literally an 8 minute drive barring rush hour. Not to mention, that is a horrible corner in terms of traffic, that shopping plaza is difficult to get in and out of as the only opening is on Hwy 14. On the side, the Batesville side, there is actually a whole 'nother shopping plaza sitting there, that would have be razed in order to gain access from the Batesville side. The corner is just not set up conveniently, with too many businesses having their only direct access right on the corner basically.

As far as the communities around....we have three Publix within 8 minutes or less, we have three Bi-Lo within 8 minutes or less....I think we have enough grocery stores to choose from. #firstworldproblems. The Food Lion/Bloom store was a desert anyway. No one shopped there unless it was a last-minute, I need milk and don't have time to run anyway else type of trip. The parking lot rarely had more than employee cars in it. The surrounding community was not at a loss because of that closing. We all just kept going to our favorite Publix anyway.
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Old 05-29-2014, 09:57 PM
 
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No sense to have a Publix there. There are three Publix within 4-5 miles of that spot. Publix on the Parkway, Five Forks, and the Publix on Woodruff/Butler is literally an 8 minute drive barring rush hour. Not to mention, that is a horrible corner in terms of traffic, that shopping plaza is difficult to get in and out of as the only opening is on Hwy 14. On the side, the Batesville side, there is actually a whole 'nother shopping plaza sitting there, that would have be razed in order to gain access from the Batesville side. The corner is just not set up conveniently, with too many businesses having their only direct access right on the corner basically.

As far as the communities around....we have three Publix within 8 minutes or less, we have three Bi-Lo within 8 minutes or less....I think we have enough grocery stores to choose from. #firstworldproblems. The Food Lion/Bloom store was a desert anyway. No one shopped there unless it was a last-minute, I need milk and don't have time to run anyway else type of trip. The parking lot rarely had more than employee cars in it. The surrounding community was not at a loss because of that closing. We all just kept going to our favorite Publix anyway.
A bad supermarket with a history of shortcomings, poor location choice and poor accessibility doomed Food Lion/Bloom and Pelham Place. I doubt Food Lion will be around much longer.

The Pelham-Batesville community is strong enough to support a supermarket and pharmacy. Neither needs currently exist in the community. I feel sorry for households driving out of their way to Pelham Road or Woodruff Road in separate areas for food and pharmacy needs. Gas prices are high to be driving miles farther.

What was to be the retail component of Village at Pelham should be revisited by a commercial developer who can secure a major supermarket to locate there or the northeast corner of South Carolina 14 at Westmoreland Road.
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Old 05-30-2014, 12:11 AM
 
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Food Lion would still be open there like they are on W. Georgia Rd if this location could garner enough business. Just don't see anything happening there anytime soon. Its just to close to Woodruff Road and the grocers around Pelham and the Parkway (BI-LO , Walmart , Publix and Earthfare). Grocers operate under an extremely competitive environment these days and on very thin margins. If the volume is not there it will not work and it's not easy to get a replacement from another major chain.
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Old 05-30-2014, 08:24 AM
 
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Food Lion would still be open there like they are on W. Georgia Rd if this location could garner enough business. Just don't see anything happening there anytime soon. Its just to close to Woodruff Road and the grocers around Pelham and the Parkway (BI-LO , Walmart , Publix and Earthfare). Grocers operate under an extremely competitive environment these days and on very thin margins. If the volume is not there it will not work and it's not easy to get a replacement from another major chain.
I am going to play with distances from 3093 South Highway 14, Greer, SC 29650-4820 for a moment. This is the address to former Bloom store 2727. I am using Mapquest for estimated distances.

Walmart store 4583
3925 Pelham Road
Greenville, SC 29615-5004
Distance: 2.13 miles

Publix store 531
Publix at Thornblade
411 The Parkway
Greer, SC 29650-4522
Distance: 2.2 miles

Bi-Lo store 5150
Milestone Plaza
3619 Pelham Road
Greenville, SC 29615-5002
Distance: 2.37 miles

Earth Fare store 240
Earth Fare Plaza
3620 Pelham Road
Greenville, SC 29615-5001
Distance: 2.42 miles

Maxwell Pointe
2131 Woodruff Road
Greenville, SC, 29607-5934
Distance: 2.9 miles

Bi-Lo store 5057
2607 Woodruff Road
Simpsonville, SC 29681-3625
Distance: 3.53 miles

Publix store 35
Five Forks Place
2700 Woodruff Road
Simpsonville, SC 29681-3642
Distance: 3.64 miles

Bi-Lo store 5273
1818 Woodruff Road
Greenville, SC 29607-5935
Distance: 3.65 miles

Publix store 530
Publix at Woodruff
1750 Woodruff Road
Greenville, SC 29607-5933
Distance: 3.9 miles

Although there is not a set standard of distances between stores, well populated and successful areas will have stores closer together. If a store can get enough business within a 2.5 mile diameter at a single location, it will be doing very well.

Bloom filled a food desert; however, Food Lion's record of lacking necessities carried over. Combined with a bad location with bad accessibility, a major tenant like a supermarket failed. I can understand reasoning why to drive farther for better options in Bi-Lo and Publix.

Food Lion store 2212, located at 1004 West Georgia Road, Simpsonville, SC 29680-7422, is lucky to be doing business without any immediate competition. If Ingle's or Publix were to open stores along West Georgia Road at Neely Ferry Road or at East Standing Springs Road, Food Lion would not last more than a few months.
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