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This USA Today article with accompanying audio says the ruling makes same-sex marriage legal in South Carolina. I'm still waiting on word from the SC attorney general.
I am not going to state my position on the issue of gay marriage and civil union here. The issue is going to remain contested by proponents and opponents.
It doesn't matter to me. I've always said call them civil unions in the law, but they have the exact same rights as 'married'. Shuts up the church and everyone who 'defines marriage as a union between a man and woman'.
It doesn't matter to me. I've always said call them civil unions in the law, but they have the exact same rights as 'married'. Shuts up the church and everyone who 'defines marriage as a union between a man and woman'.
Yeah but we tried that and religious nuts weren't going for it either.
It doesn't matter to me. I've always said call them civil unions in the law, but they have the exact same rights as 'married'. Shuts up the church and everyone who 'defines marriage as a union between a man and woman'.
Glad to hear that I'm not the only one that doesn't really care either way.
First, let me say out loud that I am a member of a large Southern Baptist church. More importantly, I am a born again Christian. So, I have to ask, did man first define marriage or was it God? Honestly, two people, no matter the sexual preference, in love together does not bother me. Heck, more lives are affected by husband and wife splitting up than by two of the same sex marrying. What bothers me is when the first lawsuit is filed against a pastor that follows the commands of the Bible and says no to marrying gays or lesbians. Gay marriage does not bother me. It is the effect gay marriage laws will have on pastors and churches that bother me.
Furman,
Marriage isn't a religious issue.
If it was, the people who would be married would be married
only by their religious church. What ever religion you are.
Marriage is a legal state issue. Not religious.
An atheist has the right to get married by the state they live in.
SO, since there is suppose to be a seperation of church and state,
just for this reason, the state has the right to rule by law whatever
that state wants to be the laws of marriage there.
It wasn't that long ago that a mixed race couple were not allowed
to get a marriage license.
That has legally changed.
Eventually, all the states will be forced to allow 2 human beings to
get legally married.
Some states take longer than others, but someday it will happen.
First, let me say out loud that I am a member of a large Southern Baptist church. More importantly, I am a born again Christian. So, I have to ask, did man first define marriage or was it God? Honestly, two people, no matter the sexual preference, in love together does not bother me. Heck, more lives are affected by husband and wife splitting up than by two of the same sex marrying. What bothers me is when the first lawsuit is filed against a pastor that follows the commands of the Bible and says no to marrying gays or lesbians. Gay marriage does not bother me. It is the effect gay marriage laws will have on pastors and churches that bother me.
The issue is that there is one word that has two similar, but distinct meanings / functions.
One meaning is of a binding legal contract that imparts over 1000 state and federal rights, allows a legal name change, and is recognized by other states, territories, and even countries.
The other meaning is a religious ceremony (that requires the legal component to be valid).
While the two different meanings can be intertwined (in a religious wedding), they don't have to be mixed for the legal requirements to be met.
Furman,
Marriage isn't a religious issue.
If it was, the people who would be married would be married
only by their religious church. What ever religion you are.
Marriage is a legal state issue. Not religious.
That's a semantic argument, but it strikes the heart of the issue. For some, marriage is very much a religious issue in which they have taken sacred religious vows in front of their church in accordance with their religious values. To be fair, this concept long predates the concept of a marriage license and those people would still hold their ceremony and consider themselves "married" even if there was no legal concept.
However, marriage is also a legal contractual concept here. That definition grants a spouse many rights including things like the ability to make end of life medical decisions, automatically inherit property, parental presumption and custody, survivor benefits, spousal privilege in court and major differences throughout the tax code. Two people could enter into this contract by signing a paper in front of a justice of the peace in the Walmart parking lot, as a completely secular activity.
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