The end of Bi-Lo is here. (Simpsonville: apartment, movie theater, income)

[scguy89]

Originally Posted by vistatiger

The DC is going to Ahold Delhaise according to this. I guess there could be other potential transactions with the remaining stores and announcements forthcoming. Not sure who would be interested unless it is Publix. Doesn't seem to be common for Harris Teeter or Lowe's to acquire a competitors footprint. They have been building from ground up.
Wonder if this explains Lowe's Foods reversal and decision to build the Pelham Rd store if they heard these changes were coming.

https://www.supermarketnews.com/reta...astern-grocers

The Lowes Foods on Pelham being back on probably was a one two punch with Bilo likely being completely divested and Earth Fare closing. I think that area is prime for a Harris Teeter so they probably want to try and get in before that happens.

[5ForksSC]

Originally Posted by vistatiger

That's why I question the need for 4 supermarkets on that stretch of W. Georgia.

I have been in that Hwy 25 FL many times and it can get quite busy. Guess it serves that end of things with less competition.
I just don't get the appeal of Neighborhood Market or the Supercenters and their lines especially right now. I look for the places with less people. LOL.

Agreed - I’d drive by 3 wal mart types and turn left. The Wm experience isn’t for me.

[5ForksSC]

Originally Posted by vistatiger

The DC is going to Ahold Delhaise according to this. I guess there could be other potential transactions with the remaining stores and announcements forthcoming. Not sure who would be interested unless it is Publix. Doesn't seem to be common for Harris Teeter or Lowe's to acquire a competitors footprint. They have been building from ground up.
Wonder if this explains Lowe's Foods reversal and decision to build the Pelham Rd store if they heard these changes were coming.

https://www.supermarketnews.com/reta...astern-grocers

FL’s pass on the Pelham rd site makes sense - they still have a lease to pay ( Bloom ) just a couple of miles down the road. Any purchase by Publix or HT will definitely be tear downs. That Bi-Lo at 14 and main in Simpsonville would do well as a Publix -

[vistatiger]

Originally Posted by 5ForksSC

FL’s pass on the Pelham rd site makes sense - they still have a lease to pay ( Bloom ) just a couple of miles down the road. Any purchase by Publix or HT will definitely be tear downs. That Bi-Lo at 14 and main in Simpsonville would do well as a Publix -

Agree. I'm thinking that 14 Bi-Lo would be great as HT also. They converted a Bi-Lo in Charlotte I believe that was very similar in design. They may be better off going there vs. W. Georgia eventually but who knows.

FL really fumbled their entry into the market back then IMO. I think they confused the market with the mix of both Food Lion and Bloom stores in the upstate then tried to convert them all back to the one banner Some of the locations they picked just didn't work out (Holland Rd, Pelham Falls area, S. Pleasantburg). On the other hand others have survived a long time. Will be interesting the see how they do with Bi-Lo's locations and Bi-Lo eliminated as competition.

[USNRET04]

Originally Posted by vistatiger

Agree. I'm thinking that 14 Bi-Lo would be great as HT also. They converted a Bi-Lo in Charlotte I believe that was very similar in design. They may be better off going there vs. W. Georgia eventually but who knows.

I agree, the demographics in that area would support a Harris Teeter nicely.

[Carolina Knight]

Originally Posted by 5ForksSC

FL’s pass on the Pelham rd site makes sense - they still have a lease to pay ( Bloom ) just a couple of miles down the road. Any purchase by Publix or HT will definitely be tear downs. That Bi-Lo at 14 and main in Simpsonville would do well as a Publix -

Originally Posted by vistatiger

Agree. I'm thinking that 14 Bi-Lo would be great as HT also. They converted a Bi-Lo in Charlotte I believe that was very similar in design. They may be better off going there vs. W. Georgia eventually but who knows.

Originally Posted by USNRET04

I agree, the demographics in that area would support a Harris Teeter nicely.

BI-LO #5661, Gresham Plaza, 120 Highway 14, Simpsonville, South Carolina 29681-6056, could work well for either Publix or Harris Teeter.

Could Publix operate three stores within the City of Simpsonville? Publix #1717, Market at Standing Springs, 1400 West Georgia Road, Simpsonville, South Carolina 29680-6305, is positioned to solely serve West Georgia Road.

Harris Teeter should be thinking beyond two stores in Greenville. I do not know if it inquired about acquiring BI-LO stores going to Food Lion:

• BI-LO #5057, Five Forks Plaza, 2607 Woodruff Road, Simpsonville, South Carolina 29681-4803
• BI-LO #5161, Dill Creek Commons, 1365 West Wade Hampton Boulevard, Greer, South Carolina 29650-1145
• BI-LO #5182, Oak Forest Plaza, 2401 Reidville Road, Oak Forest Plaza, Spartanburg, South Carolina 29301-3654
• BI-LO #5274, Brushy Creek Crossing, 2460 Hudson Road, Greer, South Carolina 29650-2923
• BI-LO #5624, 699 Fairview Road, Simpsonville, South Carolins 29680-6706

[Carolina Knight]

Originally Posted by vistatiger

FL really fumbled their entry into the market back then IMO. I think they confused the market with the mix of both Food Lion and Bloom stores in the upstate then tried to convert them all back to the one banner Some of the locations they picked just didn't work out (Holland Rd, Pelham Falls area, S. Pleasantburg). On the other hand others have survived a long time. Will be interesting the see how they do with Bi-Lo's locations and Bi-Lo eliminated as competition.

Eighteen stores, consisting of six Bloom stores and 12 Food Lion stores, opened in Anderson, Greenville, Oconee, Pickens, Spartanburg, and Union counties in 2006 and 2007. Eight of those stores remain open as Food Lion.

Anderson County
Stores opened: 2 (Food Lion: Anderson (2))
Food Lion stores remaining: 1 (Anderson)

Greenville County
Stores opened: 6 (Bloom (5): Greenville, Greer (2) Mauldin, Simpsonville; Food Lion (1): Piedmont)
Food Lion stores remaining: 2 (Piedmont, Simpsonville)

Oconee County
Stores opened: 1 (Bloom: Seneca)
Food Lion stores remaining: 1 (Seneca)

Pickens County
Stores opened: 1 (Food Lion: Clemson)
Food Lion stores remaining: 0

Spartanburg County
Stores opened: 7 (Food Lion: Inman, Lyman, Roebuck, Spartanburg (3), Woodruff)
Food Lion stores remaining: 4 (Lyman, Roebuck, Spartanburg, Woodruff)

Union County
Stores opened: 1 (Food Lion: Union)
Food Lion stores remaining: 0

Food Lion experienced failures in its previous attempt. If it has learned from its failures and can do better, it could be successful on its next attempt. If it reverts back to reasons that led to failures, it will fail again and will leave stores closed and dark.

[gville75]

Originally Posted by scguy89

The Lowes Foods on Pelham being back on probably was a one two punch with Bilo likely being completely divested and Earth Fare closing. I think that area is prime for a Harris Teeter so they probably want to try and get in before that happens.

It looks to me like the Lowe's site is still in question (according to GVL News):


Making the least progress on Tuesday was a proposed 265-apartment development off Pelham Road near Blacks Drive and Boiling Springs Road.
County Councilman Rick Roberts, who represents Greenville's rapidly growing Eastside, asked for and was granted more time to get community leaders together to review the developer's plans and suggest tweaks. The project was kicked back to the council's planning and development committee, which voted in May to reject it.
"They said they would come back with a new plan," Roberts said of the developer, listed as Ryan Foster in county documents..
Existing zoning allows for a grocery store. On the site today is a church and a couple of houses and outbuildings facing Pelham Road. The county's comprehensive plan recommends no more than 54 housing units ever go on the site.

[scguy89]

Originally Posted by gville75

It looks to me like the Lowe's site is still in question (according to GVL News):


Making the least progress on Tuesday was a proposed 265-apartment development off Pelham Road near Blacks Drive and Boiling Springs Road.
County Councilman Rick Roberts, who represents Greenville's rapidly growing Eastside, asked for and was granted more time to get community leaders together to review the developer's plans and suggest tweaks. The project was kicked back to the council's planning and development committee, which voted in May to reject it.
"They said they would come back with a new plan," Roberts said of the developer, listed as Ryan Foster in county documents..
Existing zoning allows for a grocery store. On the site today is a church and a couple of houses and outbuildings facing Pelham Road. The county's comprehensive plan recommends no more than 54 housing units ever go on the site.

This would be good but I think instead of two access point on Pelham, there should be one at the light on Pelham and one off of Blacks Drive to access that light as well.

Lowe's foods should just wait and purchase the Bilo location when it goes under. Or build on the empty land next to the Bilo shopping center.

[vistatiger]

Originally Posted by scguy89

This would be good but I think instead of two access point on Pelham, there should be one at the light on Pelham and one off of Blacks Drive to access that light as well.

Lowe's foods should just wait and purchase the Bilo location when it goes under. Or build on the empty land next to the Bilo shopping center.

I'm confused. Is the property for the apartments separate or part of the same development? It states it is already zoned for a supermarket and Lowe's has erected a sign recently and stated the store was in the planning stage.