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04-16-2009, 10:35 PM
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Notice you didn't answer the question I asked. You just avoided it. I'll ask it again. Let's see if you can actually answer it this time: Where were the tea parties when we were spending billions in Iraq and Afghanistan under the Bush Administration?
Not exactly sure how spending money on infrastructure in this country can be called a waste either. The money that is going to the automakers and banks are in the forms of loans. That means the money has to be paid back. That is already happening with banks like Goldman Sachs who is paying back $10 billion.
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I'll answer your question direct......there weren't any tea parties. That was the past. Bush was wrong. But wrong under Bush in the past is no excuse for wrong under Obama in the present. Get it? I live in the present. I had problems with the billions spent on an unjust war under Bush and the debt incurred....I have problems with the trillions being spent by Obama to bail out corporations and to take care of the lazy.
You do understand the current triilions is more than the past billions. Right?
Why should I worry. You are 20 years younger than me. You'll be the one stuck with the debt as a working 30 year old. Instead of being able to afford a BMW, you'll be driving a Yugo, thanks to all the tax you'll be paying. Enjoy! 
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04-16-2009, 10:39 PM
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As has been stated most of this $$ were loans, some of which is already coming back. Also a big difference exists between spending on infrastructure to create jobs and spending on fighting a war on the wrong country,
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The dollars to the unwed mother, who continues to have children to get tax write-offs, food stamps, housing assistance, school meals, etc, etc and milks the system is a loan? Wow, I never knew that. When can we expect these people to pay back the loans?
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04-16-2009, 10:49 PM
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Greenville becoming progressive?
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The dollars to the unwed mother, who continues to have children to get tax write-offs, food stamps, housing assistance, school meals, etc, etc and milks the system is a loan? Wow, I never knew that. When can we expect these people to pay back the loans?
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What about somebody who has a Masters degree from a major university and has lost their job? Do they not deserve our help?
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04-16-2009, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by gsupstate
The dollars to the unwed mother, who continues to have children to get tax write-offs, food stamps, housing assistance, school meals, etc, etc and milks the system is a loan? Wow, I never knew that. When can we expect these people to pay back the loans?
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The stuff directed at the banks and what not were loans. As for the other stuff, the bulk of the Stimulus funds were aimed at job creation.
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04-16-2009, 10:55 PM
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A lot of the 'job creation' looks to be very temporary, building different pork projects.
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04-16-2009, 10:55 PM
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What about somebody who has a Masters degree from a major university and has lost their job? Do they not deserve our help?
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No, they don't deserve our help - especially when you're talking about the government being involved. Prosperity is not a right, and even if it were, the government wouldn't be able to provide it. You don't want them to try to provide that, though. They would just fail at that like they have failed at the war on drugs, the war on terror, public education, etc.
"Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness." That's it. Don't try to add to it, for it is beautiful and perfect as is! 
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04-16-2009, 11:04 PM
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Roll Call:
Corporations: "Aye."
Paid "average folk":"Aye."
Fringe: "Aye".
Radio, tv and print media guys/gals told by the boardroom to, "Get down there and cover it, if you want a paycheck next week. I don't care how small it is!!": "Aye."
And the sound of crickets fills the quiet spring air..........................
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04-16-2009, 11:15 PM
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What about somebody who has a Masters degree from a major university and has lost their job? Do they not deserve our help?
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People have been losing jobs since the US was founded. If the US government were to be trusted, why are people still losing jobs....why hasn't the US government solved all our problems?
Blind faith in the government to do what is right? I pity you man.
I feel for a person that loses their job....I may lose mine in the future....who knows.....life is a gamble. But do you seriously think the person with an MBA is going to get a job paving roads? Most jobs being created by the current spending spree are blue collar / labor jobs, not MBA level jobs. The freedom in the US doesn't promise us jobs....it doesn't promise us we'll be taken care of. The freedom in the US does promise that a person with their MBA who loses their job has the opportunity to make smart decisions, come up up with fresh ideas, invent, and through hard work start their own business or find a better job. Frankly, as a person with an MBA, I'd find it an insult to my intelligence to be spoon fed and kept by the federal government.
Wake up.
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04-16-2009, 11:16 PM
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04-16-2009, 11:43 PM
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What about somebody who has a Masters degree from a major university and has lost their job? Do they not deserve our help?
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NO! This is the exact crap that we're talking about. Why am I responsible for someone else? I volunteer at a boys shelter, give to charity and tithe at my church; because I want to. The new leftisits want to force us to give, for what they deem is good and just. This is bad, bad, bad.
If a guy with a masters degree (not sure why that matters) loses his job, he should do what the rest of us have to do. Go look for one, until he finds one. Personal responsibility, what a novel concept! 
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