What is with all of the negativity lately? (Greenville, Spartanburg: home, to buy)

[Diablo0]

I thought I read him saying

Did you miss that I lived in the Southeast for 7 years and spent considerable time between Charlotte and Atlanta? Maybe so.

Granted he didn't say he spent 7 years in Greenville so I don't know where he was staying during those years. Could have been Commerce, Hartwell, Anderson, Spartanburg, Gaffney... and just came to Greenville one weekend out of the month.. who knows.

[gsupstate]

Originally Posted by Diablo0

He's just trying to get the point across that everyone talks about the sunny side of the city, the well developed areas but not many ever mention the parts of the city that are run down.

I beg to differ. West End WAS a h*ll hole and parts of it still are. Everyone acknowledges that. What the city has done to turn that area around is amazing. Everyone acknowledges areas need work. That is true in every city around the country. The beauty of Greenville is that it does acknowledge those h*ll hole areas and actively works to change them.

When a poster however turns every thread negative (with untruths) that becomes an issue. This one certain poster claimed there are no good areas other than downtown. Really? So that is why one of the worlds most famous golfers moved his company and his family to Mountain Park from Palm Beach? Mountain Park is not part of downtown. The multimillion homes on Paris Mountain are not nice? Paris Mountain is not downtown. Green Valley, Augusta Street, North Main, Cleveland Park, The Eastside, The Golden Strip, Verdae, etc, etc.....none are downtown and all are nice.

People who live here know the area, a person who visited for a weekend doesn't.

I can tell you, after my years in Dallas, Atlanta and Pittsburgh (among other large cities), Greenville is nice and that is why I chose to move here. I can tell you from my weekly business trips to cities around the country, Greenville is nice. The cycling scene, the emerging foodie scene, the detail level that sometimes surprises, the mills in "bad" areas turned into lofts.....quality of life is high in Greenville.

Yes, Greenville has many areas that need work, but look at the progress that has been made in just the last 10 years. That speaks volumes about the work the city has done and will continue to do. It speaks to the commitment of its citizens to a better life.

Sorry, but for a poster to troll and post only negative, from their impression on a SINGLE weekend trip......not very credible in most peoples view. There is big difference in "devils advocate" and "bashing". Devil's advocate in the end try to help.....bashers in the end, simply want to tear down and destroy.

[Mjames]

Originally Posted by Diablo0

I thought I read him saying



Granted he didn't say he spent 7 years in Greenville so I don't know where he was staying during those years. Could have been Commerce, Hartwell, Anderson, Spartanburg, Gaffney... and just came to Greenville one weekend out of the month.. who knows.

Way back in December he posted in a thread about his visit to Greenville.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/6388010-post8.html

[IamIam]

Originally Posted by motonenterprises

If you hate the area so much and you've voiced your opinion a million times over, why not just move on and stay in the New England threads? Usually when a person post the same things over and over, even after they have left the area then there is some underlying issue. Maybe you need counseling?

Excuse me, but did this comment just turn this thread into a negative one????? Stop attacking people for their opinions! Opinions are just that....a persons own views!

[myrc60]

Originally Posted by JViello

Not sure where you are coming from, but if Greenville is for you - that's great! Compared to what I'm used to, it wasn't.

You are going to be looking very far and wide if you think you are going to find "what I'm used to" anywhere besides where you live. You aren't "used to" Greenville like you are where you live; it couldn't possibly live up to your expectations. You cut your trip here short and I think that means you didn't give it a chance. You've also stated that its hot here in July and August; duh? Some people want the heat but since you don't why were you looking south? If you are confused about what you want you need to take more time to figure it out before you go around taking trips putting everything you've got into them and coming home disappointed.

I will ask again; if you have decided Greenville is not for you why are you still in our forum?

[christina923]

Originally Posted by gsupstate

I beg to differ. West End WAS a h*ll hole and parts of it still are. Everyone acknowledges that. What the city has done to turn that area around is amazing. Everyone acknowledges areas need work. That is true in every city around the country. The beauty of Greenville is that it does acknowledge those h*ll hole areas and actively works to change them.

When a poster however turns every thread negative (with untruths) that becomes an issue. This one certain poster claimed there are no good areas other than downtown. Really? So that is why one of the worlds most famous golfers moved his company and his family to Mountain Park from Palm Beach? Mountain Park is not part of downtown. The multimillion homes on Paris Mountain are not nice? Paris Mountain is not downtown. Green Valley, Augusta Street, North Main, Cleveland Park, The Eastside, The Golden Strip, Verdae, etc, etc.....none are downtown and all are nice.

People who live here know the area, a person who visited for a weekend doesn't.

I can tell you, after my years in Dallas, Atlanta and Pittsburgh (among other large cities), Greenville is nice and that is why I chose to move here. I can tell you from my weekly business trips to cities around the country, Greenville is nice. The cycling scene, the emerging foodie scene, the detail level that sometimes surprises, the mills in "bad" areas turned into lofts.....quality of life is high in Greenville.

Yes, Greenville has many areas that need work, but look at the progress that has been made in just the last 10 years. That speaks volumes about the work the city has done and will continue to do. It speaks to the commitment of its citizens to a better life.

Sorry, but for a poster to troll and post only negative, from their impression on a SINGLE weekend trip......not very credible in most peoples view. There is big difference in "devils advocate" and "bashing". Devil's advocate in the end try to help.....bashers in the end, simply want to tear down and destroy.

i believe a weekend or a bit more does give a valid impression of an area... some of us aren't as slow on the uptake.
greenville has a wonderful start in recreating itself, downtown is impressive! the surrounding areas of greenville drags it down. what i saw ...every in and out to that city is depressing. of course i didn't see the multitudes of side roads...but your 4/6 lane, strip malls on both sides is not what i want for my relocation. i could not ignore it.

[christina923]

i think what i found disappointing was all the "hype" about greenville and surrounding areas....
my daughter lived on north main for a number of years and loved the city.... i went to look this past april as a possiblity for relocation, i was disappointed overall.

why do i stay in this forum?? to share my experience with others who are biting hook, line and sinker. greenville is not "just" the pictures....

[myrc60]

Originally Posted by christina923

i believe a weekend or a bit more does give a valid impression of an area... some of us aren't as slow on the uptake.
greenville has a wonderful start in recreating itself, downtown is impressive! the surrounding areas of greenville drags it down. what i saw ...every in and out to that city is depressing. of course i didn't see the multitudes of side roads...but your 4/6 lane, strip malls on both sides is not what i want for my relocation. i could not ignore it.

Strip malls, at least those that are occupied, create jobs which this area badly needs. They are everywhere, I find it hard to believe that there is an area where they do not exist but I hope you find what you are looking for.

[christina923]

Originally Posted by myrc60

Strip malls, at least those that are occupied, create jobs which this area badly needs. They are everywhere, I find it hard to believe that there is an area where they do not exist but I hope you find what you are looking for.

i realize all areas have them, i realize all areas have their "less then desirable" but i found greenville to have higher then what i expected from the talk about the area. we spent time in summerville, easley, travelers rest, greer(cute) but no "area" grabbed me. my goal was never to live in the city of greenville...but a surrounding area...didn't find it.

so back to the orginial plan...aiken fits the bill a lot more for what we are looking for!

[LeavingNJ]

Originally Posted by christina923

iso back to the orginial plan...aiken fits the bill a lot more for what we are looking for!

See, it's all a matter of perspective and desires. My wife and I looked at Aiken seriously and were nearly convinced that was where we would buy a home, relocating from NJ. Then we stumbled upon Greenville. We realized that for us, we would soon grow bored of the little that Aiken had to offer by comparison. It's a very nice place, but the vitality of Greenville, with it's numerous options for dining, entertainment, activities and access to shopping appealed to us much more. The areas immediately surrounding Aiken seemed far less attractive than those nearby Greenville.

So to perhaps inject a little positive thinking into this forum, in the next two weeks we will be back in Greenville, not to visit but to buy. The opinions of Jviello and others are duly noted (ad nauseum in JViello's case), but Greenville seems like the right fit for us. No place is perfect, and I'm sure that applies equally to Greenville, but don't see why we can't be very happy there. I hope so, because by the end of July, we will be living there.