07-13-2009, 07:27 PM
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I have a question. My neighbor across the street asked me to borrow some money because they are going to turn off her power on Wednesday. She has a couple of grandchildren who live there along with her daughter.
Can a power company in South Carolina turn off someone's electricity if they have small children? I know in some states they legally cannot. I told her she needs to contact them and tell them she has small children in the house.
I don't know whether or not to loan or give her money to help with her bill. I do know her daughter does not help with the bills but she works.
I have to decide what to do, but I do want her to try to make better arrangements
Does anyone have knowledge about the power company?
07-13-2009, 08:13 PM
Location: San Antonio, TX - Displaced Michigander
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I can't answer your question about the power company and what they legally can or cannot do. If you can afford to help, help, without thinking of it as a loan. Another thing you could do is direct her to the Salvation Army or another charity locally who might be willing to help.
07-13-2009, 09:02 PM
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I can't answer your question about the power company and what they legally can or cannot do. If you can afford to help, help, without thinking of it as a loan. Another thing you could do is direct her to the Salvation Army or another charity locally who might be willing to help.
Thanks, Rapunzil. I can afford to help, the question in my mind is will I really be helping or will I be enabling behavior. The bill is not just one month and the woman has a daughter who lives there with 2 children who does not give her money. Not only that, she had a mobile pet service come to her house for her 10 year old dog last week and spent 110.00. Sometimes a person needs other than money to help them.
If I gave her the money I would not expect it back. I also won't expect to be a payday loan or to be asked to borrow money repeatedly, even if she did pay it back.
My husband and I are praying about what we should do. In the meantime, I was wondering if she can work something else out with the power company. She knew she had to have at least 200.00 by Wednesday, yet she spent money in other areas. Normally what a person does or spends is not my business, but if you ask me for money I have a right to ask questions. I want to be a good steward of my own resources.
The woman told me she has already been to all the agencies. Yet her daughter has not given her any money at all, and she has a job. So, I'm in a quandary of what is the RIGHT thing to do. Does she need help in managing her money? Or does she need to be firm with her daughter and make her help shoulder the household expenses?
So, as you can see it's more complicated than just throwing money at the issue. I want to help, not hinder.
07-13-2009, 09:38 PM
Location: Simpsonville
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I think you and your neighbor would be better served by you offering to help her with a budget or just giving her some tough love advice. Some people just have no common sense with money. Like not getting a dog groomed when your power bill is due. I think she has lots bigger problems than getting this one power bill paid. I feel really bad for the kids. Not only are they having a hard time now but they don't have good role models to teach them to be smart and self-sufficient either. If the daughter was helping out and they were doing all they could to make ends meet, I'd feel differently about giving her the money. But, I personally, wouldn't go down that road. It's likely that next month she'll be in dire straights again. If you really want to help her, I'd get info on some organizations and classes that could assist her. If she'll take advantage of that, it will be far more effective than a one-time handout.
07-13-2009, 10:05 PM
Location: San Antonio, TX - Displaced Michigander
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Susan, I think that a sit down might be in order if you do decide to help. Tell her where you see money spent on luxuries when necessities are not being taken care of. I think that is fair, but be prepared for some ' who are you to tell me what to do' attitude.
07-14-2009, 07:08 AM
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I have a question. My neighbor across the street asked me to borrow some money because they are going to turn off her power on Wednesday. She has a couple of grandchildren who live there along with her daughter.
Can a power company in South Carolina turn off someone's electricity if they have small children? I know in some states they legally cannot. I told her she needs to contact them and tell them she has small children in the house.
I don't know whether or not to loan or give her money to help with her bill. I do know her daughter does not help with the bills but she works.
I have to decide what to do, but I do want her to try to make better arrangements
Does anyone have knowledge about the power company?
Susan, after what you've said, I have some advice. I've been where you are and also like everyone else.. have had tough times too. The biggest RED Flag is the mobile dog groomer. Thats over the top. Thats not like she took a pet to the Vet because it was emergency.
Remember - Just because you CAN, doesn't mean you SHOULD. The Neighbor asked you, this is not a good sign. I would rather cut my arm off that do something like that. Even when we had the worst of times, I found a way and I worked with my creditors.
I do NOT believe you should loan them money. This person needs some NO NONSENSE advice on how to
manage money . If they refuse this and want the cash -
Tell them to take a hike . You can do this. Dont get me wrong, I'm a Christian like you... I have a Bible College degree and I am an Ordained Southern Baptist Deacon. I spent 5 years in Youth Ministry and have been a foster parent too. I've helped A LOT of people, even when I could barely afford to. God will often call us to give out of our LACK instead of our Abundance. An old Pastor told me that once .. long ago. You dont know how many people came to the board of Deacons each and every week wanting money for every possible reason under the sun. About 95% of the time we declined.. and a couple of instances had to call the police to have the people removed because their attitude changed so abruptly when told no.
If this neighbor's attitude changes when you dont give them money and doesn't want the help to get them on the right track - WASH YOUR HANDS OF THEM. Otherwise all you are doing is, as you know.. "Enabling" them to continue to be irresponsible. I hope it turns out well and they listen to your advice.
07-14-2009, 08:27 AM
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ITA if you can spend money on a pet groomer then you need to geet your priorities in order...pay your bills first! I'd help her find a solution but not give her the money. Tough situation.
07-14-2009, 08:31 AM
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Sounds to me like this woman is trying to take advantage of you. The fact that she asked in the first place seems wrong to me. The fact that she isn't managing what money she does have the proper way shows her priorities are in the wrong place. You see the red flags, but your good nature is getting in the way of it. You say her daughter works, but doesn't give her any money, that makes no sense to me since she lives there & should have financial responsibilities. Please don't enable that family any longer! I suggest you contact whatever authorities you can to check out the welfare of those children, they are the ones who need help! I believe from what you've written, that you already knew it was the best idea not to give the woman any money. What you could offer her is some good advice so she can help herself.
07-14-2009, 10:22 AM
Location: Simpsonville South Carolina
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Don't give her anything. Let her daughter sit in the dark for a few days. If she has a job like you said I bet she will cough up some money then.
07-14-2009, 12:48 PM
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I need to clarify. The mobile pet was a mobile VET, not a groomer. I actually thought they were coming to put the dog down, as I have heard it coughing for months. But the woman said her dog did not have heartworms. I guess she called them out to give the dog shots and to check him out. She did tell me that she is going to have the dog neutered next month because he has a growth on his testicle that the vet said was probably cancer. I asked her how old the dog is and she said 10 years old.
I've had tough times myself and I've had my utilities turned off for non payment in years past. So I know how things can be, but also I was not a good money manager at the time.
There is another car at their house today. I am still waiting to hear from my husband (he's out of town) what he feels the Lord told him. I believe that I (unless my husband says differently) will give her the money BUT make it plain to her that this is a ONE TIME event, whether or not she pays the money back. Then I will offer to help her work out a budget and I will repeat again to her what I did yesterday. That her daughter is the primary one responsible for those children and she needs to be helping her mother financially.
The mother (grandmother) is my age and the children are small. She is on disability and the daughter gets paid every week. The daughter must not care if the kids have no lights or A/C. Honestly, I could not call CPS at this time because the children always look clean, well fed, they are polite and I know it is their grandmother who is taking care of them.
My inclination is to NOT give her the money. My reasoning and what I think I know of her (they have lived across from me over a year) is that the woman would loan or give me the money if I asked her. But I really don't know that and it should not impact my decision. She has offered food to my chickens, and she has always been nice to me when we have talked. If it was just her, I would have no problem. My problem is that I believe her daughter should be helping her, and not me!
Thank you all for your replies. I will let you know what my husband and I finally decide to do.
The neighbor actually sent the 6 year old child to me when I was out in the yard. When I walked over, she asked me if I had 100.00 she could borrow. I told her I did not have 100.00 and went inside, called and talked with my husband. If it had not been for him, I would know no more, but he told me to go over and see what the problem was. That's when the neighbor told me the story. I still don't like the idea that she sent the child over to ask me. We are on little more than saying hello terms.
Susan
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Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)