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Old 09-26-2009, 09:34 AM
 
Location: New York City
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NYB, I appreciate your posts. I think your hilarious!



This percentage is based on the population. 11.5% of SC's population is actually less people than 3% of New York's population. I'm not saying it's good or OK. Just wondering if you saw that New York had an unemployment rate of 3% would you think that was OK? Even though more people are out of work.
Any place that has a high unemployment rate whether it is NYC or SC is a concern to me. I am not the type of person who is heartless and can turn a blind eye to people's suffering. Eventhough I left SC, went back to NYC to accept a job and no longer in a hard financial situation. I am still in contact with the many wonderful people who I have met in SC and find it heart breaking to hear their stories. Many have lost their jobs and barely have money to put food on their tables. It is really disturbing when I see people that try to cover up the problems by trying to discredit the experiences of others who have experienced it. In some parts of SC things are so bad that people are resorting to stealing just to survive. A friend of mine has family in SC who owns acres of land. Long story short they were renting trailers to people until the relative died. Now there is no one on the property and the metal has been stolen (stripped) off the trailers!

As far as NYC there is no comparison between the NYC economy and the SC economy. NYC is a city that has been around a long time, has diverse and established industry and when a recession hits here and a few business's close believe me there are plenty of other industries for those with a decent resume to find a new job if they end up laid off. When I became tired of dealing with months of seeking decent paying work in SC and then getting a job where the pay was so low it was ridiculous. It took 1 month of sending my resume out here in NYC before I had a job offer, now I am working getting the amount of money I deserve. That is the difference between a SC recession and a NYC recession!

Glad you find me hilarious.......you should see me after a few martini's! Ever in NYC send me a direct message

 
Old 09-26-2009, 01:26 PM
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Any place that has a high unemployment rate whether it is NYC or SC is a concern to me. I am not the type of person who is heartless and can turn a blind eye to people's suffering. Eventhough I left SC, went back to NYC to accept a job and no longer in a hard financial situation. I am still in contact with the many wonderful people who I have met in SC and find it heart breaking to hear their stories. Many have lost their jobs and barely have money to put food on their tables. It is really disturbing when I see people that try to cover up the problems by trying to discredit the experiences of others who have experienced it. In some parts of SC things are so bad that people are resorting to stealing just to survive. A friend of mine has family in SC who owns acres of land. Long story short they were renting trailers to people until the relative died. Now there is no one on the property and the metal has been stolen (stripped) off the trailers!

As far as NYC there is no comparison between the NYC economy and the SC economy. NYC is a city that has been around a long time, has diverse and established industry and when a recession hits here and a few business's close believe me there are plenty of other industries for those with a decent resume to find a new job if they end up laid off. When I became tired of dealing with months of seeking decent paying work in SC and then getting a job where the pay was so low it was ridiculous. It took 1 month of sending my resume out here in NYC before I had a job offer, now I am working getting the amount of money I deserve. That is the difference between a SC recession and a NYC recession!

Glad you find me hilarious.......you should see me after a few martini's! Ever in NYC send me a direct message
I am happy to hear that you found acceptable employment in NYC. You are very fortunate. I am sure you are aware that the unemployment rate in NYC is now 10.5% (August 2009), up from 5.9% from August of 2008. Ironically, the unemployment rate in Greenville County is now 10.1%. Funny how everything works out, isn't it?
 
Old 09-26-2009, 02:29 PM
 
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I am happy to hear that you found acceptable employment in NYC. You are very fortunate. I am sure you are aware that the unemployment rate in NYC is now 10.5% (August 2009), up from 5.9% from August of 2008. Ironically, the unemployment rate in Greenville County is now 10.1%. Funny how everything works out, isn't it?
I am shocked, just SHOCKED! New York City has such a diversity of jobs and a highly talented and educated labor force, while little 'ol Greenville relies too heavily on manufacturing and an uneducated workforce. How is it possible that Greenville's unemployment rate is less?
 
Old 09-26-2009, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Travelers Rest SC
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The only person I know personally that has lost their job is my sister....... in NYC. Luckily, she was allowed to 'retire'.
 
Old 09-27-2009, 10:11 PM
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After I was laid off last December, I spent four months looking for a job in Greenville (make that, wasted four months, but I suppose hindsight is 20/20). I found two advertised jobs in my field and got zero interviews. How ridiculous!

If I were a factory workerModerator cut: offtopic , maybe I would have had a better shot. This is a place where networking is crucial, which I tried but I just don't know enough local hillbillies to make it work.

The good jobs (like the one I had) are not advertised to people who already live there; they are filled by transplants (like me) and then if you lose your job, you're screwed.

I moved to Dallas and found a job by applying on-line. They wanted my skills and experience, not my hillbilly accent and network of church-going friends.

Greenville is just another small town stuck in the past with a higher population.

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Old 09-28-2009, 06:52 AM
 
Location: New York City
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I am happy to hear that you found acceptable employment in NYC. You are very fortunate. I am sure you are aware that the unemployment rate in NYC is now 10.5% (August 2009), up from 5.9% from August of 2008. Ironically, the unemployment rate in Greenville County is now 10.1%. Funny how everything works out, isn't it?
A 10.5% unemployment rate in NYC is still totally different then one in SC. In SC one has limited options for work (hospitals, retail, manufacturing or some other kind of back breaking work), pay is horrible for most of the population. South Carolina had limited job opportunities before the recession, now during the recession and will have the same problem with limited job opportunities and low paying jobs after the recession is over as long as the residents and politicians there continue to do nothing. The fact of the matter is that the state of SC has known for many years that it needed to diversify and attract other industries to the state and no one did anything. So let's stop pretending that it is just the recession causing the economic problems in SC. NYC is home to Wall Street and therefore has an excuse for some of it's unemployment numbers. What is South Carolinas excuse for years of making no progress?? Another thing if someone finds themself laid off here and their unemployment runs out there is help through the city. Get into trouble in SC and there is nothing but donations from the churches ( thank God).

Now this is not to say that there has been no effects felt from the recession in other states to one extent or another but I am sorry not to the extreme like SC. If one loses a job in SC there is not much to fall back on.

If some people are laid off here competition is a lot stiffer (more population) but there are also different industries to fall back on. For example NYC is the financial capital of the world (Wall street) so of course with the recession and government intervention regarding the way Wall Street does business I am sure that there are quite a number of casualities. However thank God finance is not the only area that can provide jobs for residents here. So if a person happens to lose a job in finance then they can work in pharmaceuticals, consumer products (Colgate Palmolive is here in Manhattan), accounting firms (KPMG, Price Waterhouse Coopers both in Manhattan), insurance (Metlife, New York Life etc.), large commercial advertising firms, Sony Music Group (recently hiring in Manhattan), BET network television (recently hiring here in Manhattan), there are several large hotels here (Marriott, Trump Plaza which is now being sold as condo's, W hotels, Helmsley hotel, Omni Berkshire etc.), fashion & retail ( Macy's Herald Square, Bloomingdales, Bergdorf Goodman, Saks 5th Ave., Hermes, Gucci, Prada, Louis Vuitton etc.), beauty (Revlon corporate office on Madison Ave. recently hiring, Loreal etc.), city jobs ( NYC transit have several friends and family members working for them), fire department, NYPD (have a cousin that is a detective with the police department) NY Department of Sanitation, law ( lots of law firms), Pitney Bowes (mail service operations), culinary ( 20,000 + restaurants located here), film & live performance ( broadway, ballet, opera, music). The sky is the limit in this city, anyone with drive, ambition and a good resume can become anything they want to become in this city!

And I could go on and on and on naming the different companies that exist in this city.
 
Old 09-28-2009, 07:27 AM
 
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After I was laid off last December, I spent four months looking for a job in Greenville (make that, wasted four months, but I suppose hindsight is 20/20). I found two advertised jobs in my field and got zero interviews. How ridiculous!

If I were a factory worker or spoke hillbilly, maybe I would have had a better shot. This is a place where networking is crucial, which I tried but I just don't know enough local hillbillies to make it work.

The good jobs (like the one I had) are not advertised to people who already live there; they are filled by transplants (like me) and then if you lose your job, you're screwed.

I moved to Dallas and found a job by applying on-line.
Greenville is just another small town stuck in the past with a higher population.
You are so on point with what you have said here. It was the same way when I transferred there with the company I was working for. As you said the good paying jobs are not advertised and are usually filled with someone like ne who was transferred from another state. Then if you are laid off your options for finding decent paying work is slim to none. Greenville is a lovely town but has a very long way to go. I went through the same thing when I was laid off, months wasted looking for a decent paying job, family was sending money every month from NYC to help keep my bills paid, a handful of jobs in my field that only resulted in one interview and when I finally found work the pay was so ridiculous that I still could not afford to pay bills.

Area heavily saturated with factory jobs, healthcare, retail and other labor related jobs. Therefore unless someone has a background in those fields they are messed up trying to live there. Much better leaving Greenville until retirement or waiting to see if things change there. We will see if SC learns any lessons after the recession is over and does something to attract bigger industries there that can provide residents with a living wage.
 
Old 09-28-2009, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Greenville, S.C., USA
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A finance professional will find it difficult to simply acquire employment at a pharmaceutical company, whether he or she lives in NYC or elsewhere. Greater job diversity is only beneficial to an unemployed person if he or she is qualified to work in more than one of the industries. Even then that person will be faced with stiff competition when applying for employment. This is a universal reality.

Apparently we have a self-proclaimed "expert" on this forum, who could not find work despite being a transplant with an allegedly "better education" than native Southerners. How ironic that her quoted knowledge and unfortunate experience in the South actually contradict one another quite often.

EDIT: Just thought I would add a recent reply in the South Carolina forum, since it is equally relevant here.
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Since you love to bring up the superiority of New York City residents during your attacks against the legitimacy of native South Carolinians' opinions, how do you defend the outrageous school dropout rate in NYC? A questionable (possibly inflated) 56% graduation rate in 2008 (up from 46%) is nothing to be proud of, in my opinion. Precisely who is incompetent to debate here?

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Old 09-28-2009, 06:59 PM
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There is one thing that NewYorkBorn and I disagree on, namely how wonderful NYC is. I used to live there (wasn't born there) and the local accent was annoying (though I could mimic it much better than hillbilly), it's crowded, dirty and full of gun-grabbing tax-and-spend liberals. The city should have gone bankrupt in the '70's. Maybe they would learn their lesson but instead they got bailed out by Albany.

I moved to Greenville specifically to get away from this nonsense. However, if I can't secure employment, the property rights, low taxes and gun-friendly laws don't do me any good.

So I moved to Dallas, found employment, and I still enjoy property rights, low taxes and gun-friendly laws.
 
Old 09-28-2009, 09:31 PM
 
Location: New York City
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There is one thing that NewYorkBorn and I disagree on, namely how wonderful NYC is. I used to live there (wasn't born there) and the local accent was annoying (though I could mimic it much better than hillbilly), it's crowded, dirty and full of gun-grabbing tax-and-spend liberals. The city should have gone bankrupt in the '70's. Maybe they would learn their lesson but instead they got bailed out by Albany.

I moved to Greenville specifically to get away from this nonsense. However, if I can't secure employment, the property rights, low taxes and gun-friendly laws don't do me any good.

So I moved to Dallas, found employment, and I still enjoy property rights, low taxes and gun-friendly laws.
I respect everyone's opinion and you are certainly entitled to yours. However nowhere in my post did I use the word wonderful to describe NYC.......it is not perfect no more then any other city is perfect. I actually agree with you it is too crowded but I would rather deal with the crowds and have a good paying job then to have more space in SC and be broke! The job market of NYC compared to SC......NYC has much better (with a recession or without) job opportunities.

We may be gun grabbing liberals but we are not backwards, broke and stuck in the past! There we definitely disagree.
South Carolina went from dependency on slavery to the textile industry to the present dependency on the manufacturing industry.
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