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Old 05-23-2010, 06:05 AM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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I'm very much against that and I'm tired of buying bottled water here, I'd like to be able to just use an inexpensive water filter wherever I move to next. Water was NOT fluoridated when I moved here in '97 but in '04 or '05 there was a sudden change, which I find totally retarded, but now I have a chance to choose those things that matter the most to me so I'll appreciate having an answer.

 
Old 05-23-2010, 06:24 AM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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Never mind, I just found out that it IS, but then the few other places I've considered also do, I guess it'll continue to be verse osmosis bottled water for me.
 
Old 05-23-2010, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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Not to be rude, but what's wrong with water that has fluoride in it? The water here doesn't taste funky or anything. Bottled water is probably the worst thing you could buy when it comes to the environment. I recommend a filter for your faucet instead.
 
Old 05-23-2010, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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Isn't the fluoride good for you?
 
Old 05-23-2010, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I once overheard some freaky people in Earth Fare talking about fluoride in the water and other things like they were part of some kind of mind-control conspiracy or something... Maybe they should stop putting it in toothpaste also(?).
 
Old 05-23-2010, 12:48 PM
 
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I think the concern over fluoridation of municipal water is valid. Fluoride used to be an insecticide, as well as a rat poison. The idea to add fluoride to drinking water started as a result of a study in the 1930s showing that fluoride prevents tooth decay. I'm not sure how large the study was, or what its methods were, but since then there doesn't seem to be much evidence that it is needed. A study in the mid-80s involving nearly 40,000 school-aged children showed no difference in tooth decay rates between those who lived in cities with fluoridated water and those who did not.

However, since 1970 rates of tooth decay have been steadily declining in many countries, including Japan, Italy, Germany, France, the United States, and many others. That's due to the fluoride in drinking water, right? Interestingly, the United States is the only one of these countries that adds fluoride to the drinking water.

It is interesting that fluoride is the only chemical added to drinking water that has absolutely nothing to do with improving the safety of the water. What's most concerning is that some scientists believe that ingesting fluoride causes some cancers, harms the immune system, and causes thyroid problems, among other things. This has not been proven, but just because it hasn't been proven yet does not mean that it is harmless. The fact that fluoride's benefits are questionable at best, coupled with the fact that fluoride may possibly cause our bodies harm, leads me to believe that it should not be in the drinking water. If parents feel otherwise, then they could still choose to use toothpaste with fluoride added, for themselves as well as their children.
 
Old 05-23-2010, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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G-man,

If your question is sincere I wonder why you say "not to be rude but",
that alsmot made me not want to answer at all. I know how some people are, who ask not wanting to know but just wanting to argue. Besides, the answer is not simple, so, in case I'm being baited here I'll just recommend that you do your own research.

But I will say that filtering does not eliminate fluoride from water, and when my health is at stake I choose the lesser of two evils, so I buy gallon bottles that I refill at a machine and reuse until they spring a leak, at which time I put them in the recycling bin for pick up.

As for
UpstateBooster, go ahead and make fun if you like, but I just posted here with a question which, incidentally, I answered myself.

However, since you are so smart, I'd like to ask you if you've EVER read the WARNING on your tube of toothpaste, which says to call a poison control center if "more than normally used for brushing is accidentally swallowed" and wondered WHY (it's less than 1"...). Plain and simple it's because fluoride has a high toxicity level
(if not convinced check the MSDS of Sodium Fluoride).

If you stop to consider that the mouth is full of small blood vessels, especially under the tongue, (heard of how people stop angina chest pain by putting a nitroglycerine pill under the tongue and how Vit. B-12, which is badly absorbed via the stomach, can be absorbed this way?), don't you feel even a bit uncomfortable knowing you're absorbing this unnecessary chemical (which has NOT really been proven to prevent cavities past a certain age) maybe several times a day, day after day, and year after year . Do you seriously expect it to have NO effect? If after considering this it still doesn't bother you at all, either you're naive or have little concern for your health...

In recent years, and especially since our current president won the elections I've heard people protesting that there's "too much government", yet it seems kind of ironic that many of those same people have no problem meekly accepting, like good little sheep, that the same government put chemicals that can have adverse effects on our health without even asking our vote on it... So much trust! I, for one, prefer to decide what to put in my body and, btw, I already take lots of supplements, so if I could believe fluoride was any good for me I'd be all for it, but as it happens I already have a bad thyroid which I can probably blame in part to it, see this:
The Effects Of Fluoride On The Thyroid Gland.

So, if y'all care about your health and that of your children, if you have them, do a little research of your own, it's all out there...

 
Old 05-23-2010, 02:27 PM
 
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Yes and all you people who are using the public sewer system and taking medications please stop. You are polluting our waters (rivers, lakes, and streams) since the remnants of your medications get flushed down the toilet. So instead of protesting fluoride in water, I'd much rather protest the men and women who put Prozac and Viagra in our water system that our children to drink!
 
Old 05-23-2010, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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Originally Posted by Greenville View Post
I think the concern over fluoridation of municipal water is valid. Fluoride used to be an insecticide, as well as a rat poison. The idea to add fluoride to drinking water started as a result of a study in the 1930s showing that fluoride prevents tooth decay. I'm not sure how large the study was, or what its methods were, but since then there doesn't seem to be much evidence that it is needed. A study in the mid-80s involving nearly 40,000 school-aged children showed no difference in tooth decay rates between those who lived in cities with fluoridated water and those who did not.

However, since 1970 rates of tooth decay have been steadily declining in many countries, including Japan, Italy, Germany, France, the United States, and many others. That's due to the fluoride in drinking water, right? Interestingly, the United States is the only one of these countries that adds fluoride to the drinking water.

It is interesting that fluoride is the only chemical added to drinking water that has absolutely nothing to do with improving the safety of the water. What's most concerning is that some scientists believe that ingesting fluoride causes some cancers, harms the immune system, and causes thyroid problems, among other things. This has not been proven, but just because it hasn't been proven yet does not mean that it is harmless. The fact that fluoride's benefits are questionable at best, coupled with the fact that fluoride may possibly cause our bodies harm, leads me to believe that it should not be in the drinking water. If parents feel otherwise, then they could still choose to use toothpaste with fluoride added, for themselves as well as their children.
I didn't realize you had replied, as you can see I repeated some of what you said, but you summarized it very, very well and I'm glad there is another "voice of reason" here, so I gave you a "rep".
 
Old 05-23-2010, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Originally Posted by mcatp View Post
Yes and all you people who are using the public sewer system and taking medications please stop. You are polluting our waters (rivers, lakes, and streams) since the remnants of your medications get flushed down the toilet. So instead of protesting fluoride in water, I'd much rather protest the men and women who put Prozac and Viagra in our water system that our children to drink!
Geez, can we all just chill for a bit? There's already too much to worry about in this world.... Let's face it - nothing's totally safe or clean or secure, or.....
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