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Old 04-11-2012, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Up above the world so high!
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No one else but YOU has the right to decide if your behavior is normal or abnormal. Throw those RULES out of the window. Are these your rules? Everyone reacts different and what is normal to one person maybe abnormal to another. But no one has that right to make judgements.
Well, that's not exactly accurate.

A mentally ill person may believe it is perfectly "normal" to walk down the street naked. The rest of us would find that behavior abnormal.

In other words, there are standards of "normal" and "abnormal" behavior in society.
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Old 04-11-2012, 11:11 AM
 
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Sorry honey, but there really is.

Behaving normally in an abnormal situation is usually called "being in denial".
Agreee to disagree. It is not "denial" to be able to calmly and rationally react to an unusual circumstance.

Crisis! How Would You Respond?
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Old 04-11-2012, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Austin
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Christians who cry at funerals should be smacked...if you understand the faith...the deceased is not dead --and you insult the faith with this show of panic and disbelief...I like funerals..
Aaaahhh...I get it. Christians are not supposed to have actual feelings for their departed loved ones. Ok, just checking.
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Old 04-11-2012, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Austin
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No one else but YOU has the right to decide if your behavior is normal or abnormal. Throw those RULES out of the window. Are these your rules? Everyone reacts different and what is normal to one person maybe abnormal to another. But no one has that right to make judgements.
These are very accurate philosophical guidelines. Believe what you wish.
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Old 04-11-2012, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Austin
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Sorry honey, but there really is.

Behaving normally in an abnormal situation is usually called "being in denial".
Right! People just love to make excuses for their own behaviors. In the end, it's called personal accountability. Many people refuse, so they make excuses and act out like children or behave in otherwise poor fashion.
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Old 04-11-2012, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Islip,NY
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Well, that's not exactly accurate.

A mentally ill person may believe it is perfectly "normal" to walk down the street naked. The rest of us would find that behavior abnormal.

In other words, there are standards of "normal" and "abnormal" behavior in society.
I get what you are saying
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Old 04-11-2012, 03:39 PM
 
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Sorry honey, but there really is.

Behaving normally in an abnormal situation is usually called "being in denial".
...

Are you suggesting that NOT rolling around on the floor while screaming is abnormal?
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Old 05-27-2012, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Manhattan, Ks
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No. All behavior is not "excused" while grieving. And who can "quantify" grief? My cat died...I am "grieving". Some people would not validate that as "real" grief. But, to the person experiencing it, that may be as significant as losing a child. It may be difficult to understand or even validate that...
I'm not trying to pick on you Jasper, but I see pet owners saying this all the time and it really bothers me.

I've been a vet tech for over 10 years as well as having experience losing my own beloved pets. In fact I recently had to euthanize my "heart dog". It was excruciating. Grief over the loss of a pet is very real and should absolutely be validated more often than it is.

However...

The only people who say losing a pet is the same as losing a child have never lost both.
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Old 05-27-2012, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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Aaaahhh...I get it. Christians are not supposed to have actual feelings for their departed loved ones. Ok, just checking.
Not much you can do for a cold dead stiff corpse- The person is not in that body--so why make a scene over dead meat? No you should not having "feelings" for the "departed loved ones"------------They are DEAD they don't need your feelings...

The Christian message is to have feelings for the living--It's easy to have feelings for the dead- good ones and bad ones- the dead do not argue or compete..


Went to Korean Catholic funeral...a "business" associate was grasping the corpse in the coffin and letting out loud laments and soaking the dead guy in tears-----------All I could think of was- That guys sure likes to put on a show....The grieving friend was not really "hysterical" - He was acting....
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Old 05-27-2012, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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The grieving friend was not really "hysterical" - He was acting....
You have no way of knowing if it was a show, or if it was real.

Just because his reaction may have seemed over-the-top, doesn't mean his feelings in that moment weren't real. Maybe he liked the guy a lot more than he ever admitted, until that moment? Or maybe he had a close relative die at some point, and never really grieved, and it all came rushing back in that moment? Funerals open the floodgates on emotion for a lot of people. They are immediately thrust back in time, to when other loved ones died.

No one should judge the way another person grieves. And to accuse anyone of "acting" when you don't really know for sure? That's just wrong.
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