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Old 08-04-2010, 08:02 PM
 
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I would want them down just like I do the coyotes in my yard. The kill the game animals and will go after domestic animals.

Take them and coyotes and keep them in the yard with you and your children for a day or two ( little kids, esp.) and see if you still have the same thoughts on the matter. I bet you don't
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Old 08-04-2010, 08:05 PM
 
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Hunting and the ability to be self sufficient is a threat to Socialists. It is a most useful skill indeed.
I wonder how many of the people you cite could put food on the table for themselves and families in a crisis? We can hunt on our land and can do so -- only one kid won't hunt. She fits the above category.
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Old 08-04-2010, 08:12 PM
 
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I couldn't do it. The idea of taking an innocent life makes me feel too guilty.
It is all a matter of perspective. I know many people who feel as you do and I wouldn't for a moment chastise them for not having the "hunting gene".

I only get my fur up when people who insist on no hunting and a preservation stance have no idea of the unintended consequences of the anti-hunting agenda some try to force.
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Old 08-04-2010, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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I couldn't do it. The idea of taking an innocent life makes me feel too guilty.
So, I take it you do not eat?
If you DO eat, you MUST be a vegetarian! You certainly could never eat a piece of an innocent cow or pig or sheep or goat or fish or...
But then, as I asked before, does a carrot scream when it is ripped from the ground, peeled, sliced, and boiled?
Sorry to be so violent and crude, but if you EAT, you KILL! Whether it be animals or plants, YOU kill things to avoid going hungry! It can be no other way! Either YOU kill what you eat, or you PAY others to do it for you, or you starve to death!
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Old 08-05-2010, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Wheaton, Illinois
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I think it's odd when people like the OP try to apologize for the image of hunting and say it's not just rural and blue collar people who enjoy it. Since when are rural and blue collar people supposed to apologize for being what they are?

I've no interest in hunting but if others want to hunt that's aces with me. I'm a liberal and tolerant of the lifestyle choices of others. Besides, many rural people need the meat. Indeed, one might argue that only rural people should be allowed to hunt but that's another story.
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Old 08-05-2010, 08:18 PM
 
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Most anyone will hunt if they get hungery enough. First they might eat plants, then bugs, but meat comes along if they are hungery they will eat it.
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Old 08-05-2010, 08:28 PM
 
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That lion was legal, so there is 0 problem. Evidently the state has a problem allowing it'sd only lion to be hunted/shot. Doesn't seem to me like the guy was hunting lions, but came on one.

I can't say i like it, but the state should have no lion tag, or what ever. had that occured in NH the siad 'hunter' would pay hard fines. You can't hunt that cat here period. They do live here.
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Old 08-05-2010, 11:41 PM
 
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I think it's odd when people like the OP try to apologize for the image of hunting and say it's not just rural and blue collar people who enjoy it. Since when are rural and blue collar people supposed to apologize for being what they are?

I've no interest in hunting but if others want to hunt that's aces with me. I'm a liberal and tolerant of the lifestyle choices of others. Besides, many rural people need the meat. Indeed, one might argue that only rural people should be allowed to hunt but that's another story.
I never suggested that such people should apologize for what they are. I stated that hunting and hunters are often portrayed in an unfairly negative and stereotyped way. The terms 'rural' and 'blue collar' are not equivalent to the term 'hickish,' like I used in my opening post. "Hick" in our society carries a very strongly negative connotation of willful ignorance or backwardness. I stated that this image or label for hunters as a group was wrong and oversimplistic, and I provided a few counterexamples to the stereotype from my own experiences.
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Old 08-06-2010, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Columbia, California
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,,,,I stated that hunting and hunters are often portrayed in an unfairly negative and stereotyped way.,,,.
Hollywood does overly portray hunters to have been characters from "Deliverance". Always a cheek full of chew with a bottle of whisky in one hand and a rifle in the other.
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Old 08-06-2010, 12:11 PM
 
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I've read negative sentiments about hunting several times on these boards. Some of these come from a moral viewpoint, and I'm not trying to contradict a person's morality. Others that I've encountered are offensive:

1) Hunting is a hick activity
2) Hunters don't care about nature or wildlife
3) Hunters are uneducated
4) Associations of obnoxious confederate flags, pickups, and ATV's with hunting

Okay, I'll be the first to admit that there are hunters that I know a few personally who could fit any of those stereotypes.

My dad is a hunter. He taught me to hunt when I was 12 years old, and I still value the hunting tradition even if I don't go as often as I used to. We have many friends who hunt, and most are educated, successful, and cultured people.
I'm a Latino city dweller with an MBA. I am a successful contractor who loves to hunt. All three of my children hunt. One of my daughters who hunts is a wildlife biologist with the state of California. So much for ignorant liberal ecofascist stereotypes. Now I'm going to have a piece of Elk jerky for a snack while I map out our families fall Bambi hunt for October!
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