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Old 01-21-2012, 05:10 PM
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I am conducting historical research on an Iver Johnson Safety Automatic Hammerless Second Model. I have confirmed this much about the revolver. I am trying to interpret some information concerning the serial number. With the grips removed, the serial number on the left side (normal operation) of the frame is R4827. Lower on the grip portion of the frame is 498. On the bottom of the trigger guard is 4827. I am looking for any details those serial numbers will provide. Of real confusion to me is the 498 on the grip portion of the frame. The revolver is purported to have been owned by a retired police officer from my agency, Columbus Ohio Police. We don't have any records.
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Old 01-21-2012, 09:14 PM
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Is this the one?

The National Firearms Museum: Iver Johnson Safety Hammerless revolver

If so, this downloadable e-book, from the index listing, appears to address the serial numbers and markings:


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Old 02-08-2013, 03:54 PM
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Post Re: Ivar Johnson's Pistol

I have from my great uncle a pistol (serial # 29461) that he and his partner used as a bar gun (under the counter) in their saloon in Portland, Ore. before it became a state. On top it reads: Pat. Apr. 686 Feb.1587 May 1087 Dec. 2693 Pat's Pending. And to my surprise, it can still fire. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it could be an Ivar Johnson first model. In my genaology papers I have the name of the saloon, and I think there is also an address/ or location of it in the late 1800's. Have you come across any other old pistols of this kind?
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