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My favorite babies. They are real, Fairbairn Sykes Pattern 3.
They are stamped "WILLIAM RODGERS SHEFFIELD ENGLAND".
In a real story, they are the reason my friend, an X-Secret Service agent gave me one of his 6906's. He told me on one visit, he would shoot a man who was holding a knife, faster than he would shoot a man with a gun.
1. He didn't like getting cut.
2. The SS and FBI manuals both show that the trained person with a knife, within 10 feet of a man with the gun, still has an advantage.
My favorite babies. They are real, Fairbairn Sykes Pattern 3.
They are stamped "WILLIAM RODGERS SHEFFIELD ENGLAND".
In a real story, they are the reason my friend, an X-Secret Service agent gave me one of his 6906's. He told me on one visit, he would shoot a man who was holding a knife, faster than he would shoot a man with a gun.
1. He didn't like getting cut.
2. The SS and FBI manuals both show that the trained person with a knife, within 10 feet of a man with the gun, still has an advantage.
That is correct, but the actual distance is up for discussion between different Agencies. Some say 7 feet, some say 10 feet, some say 21 feet. It's 10' that is a good average. Anytime you hear some smarta** gun guy laugh at a knife, and why it is that you need it along with YOUR gun...just grin and send the dumba** on his way! Rob showed the world what a Cold Steel Recon 1 Tanto can do in the right hands.
That is correct, but the actual distance is up for discussion between different Agencies. Some say 7 feet, some say 10 feet, some say 21 feet. It's 10' that is a good average. Anytime you hear some smarta** gun guy laugh at a knife, and why it is that you need it along with YOUR gun...just grin and send the dumba** on his way! Rob showed the world what a Cold Steel Recon 1 Tanto can do in the right hands.
That's also why he gave me his 6906, he also said he felt good giving it to me, because he knew if I ever needed to, I would not hesitate to use it.
I love that weapon, it's very accurate, easy to handle, and of course, the price was excellent. Ron has since passed away, but in his memory, every year on the anniversary of his passing, I put 100 rounds through it in his memory. He was good people, and a good friend.
That's also why he gave me his 6906, he also said he felt good giving it to me, because he knew if I ever needed to, I would not hesitate to use it.
I love that weapon, it's very accurate, easy to handle, and of course, the price was excellent. Ron has since passed away, but in his memory, every year on the anniversary of his passing, I put 100 rounds through it in his memory. He was good people, and a good friend.
That was very nice of him. I'm sure he knew you would take good care of it. He also knew you wouldn't be dumb and sell it off or something. I have several knives and a few guns like that too. The elders who I got them from, either for free or next to nothing, knew I would take even better care of them than they did. I also would never sell something like that. You can't put a price on integrity. It just can't be bought at any price.
That was very nice of him. I'm sure he knew you would take good care of it. He also knew you wouldn't be dumb and sell it off or something. I have several knives and a few guns like that too. The elders who I got them from, either for free or next to nothing, knew I would take even better care of them than they did. I also would never sell something like that. You can't put a price on integrity. It just can't be bought at any price.
I agree. I could not even consider sell that S&W. That thought is so foreign I was actually shocked to even see that word in the same post as mine.
A gift like that is a treasure beyond value, and I could not dream of dishonoring the man who gave it to me by even considering it's sale. Of course though, it's the people like us who understand that.
Carbon steel is still THE best steel for working knives of all types.
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Originally Posted by wutitiz
I think it depends on the application. For a large knife where a lot of force can be be generated (say while chopping) carbon steel has superior toughness. Otherwise stainless steel tends to have better wear resistence which translates to edge holding, and obviously has the advantage of corrosion resistance.
Carbon steel blades tend to be softer and easier to sharpen, but with diamond hones that becomes a moot point.
With respect I will disagree that stainless is the best steel for working knives.
1095 carbon steel will re-sharpen in a flash, keep an edge for a good while, and in time gain a nice patina that stops damaging rust. From the butcher shop to the pocket of millions of hard working folk's that use knives a lot plain ol' 1095 is the best steel there is.
Stainless, on the other hand, is best for the casual user. A bit harder to sharpen, doesn't take an edge as well without power equipment.
For the few knives that I own/use that are stainless they are all AUS-8 stainless since it's, above all other stainless, easy to sharpen and holds a decent edge for a reasonable time.
There is also a third option. Damascus or San Mai III. They are layered steel. The San Mai III is a harder steel sandwiched in between two softer steels. It's very-very-very strong and sharp. Damascus can either be one type of carbon steel that is folded over and over again in a forge, or mulitple carbon steels folded together. Again, very-very-very strong and extremely sharp. Both are on the pricey side, but true knife guys don't care! If you really are looking for something over the top, these are it.
There is also a third option. Damascus or San Mai III. They are layered steel. The San Mai III is a harder steel sandwiched in between two softer steels. It's very-very-very strong and sharp. Damascus can either be one type of carbon steel that is folded over and over again in a forge, or mulitple carbon steels folded together. Again, very-very-very strong and extremely sharp. Both are on the pricey side, but true knife guys don't care! If you really are looking for something over the top, these are it.
Yes, these steels appeal to a very small segment of the knife buying public since the steels are so specialized.
Yes, these steels appeal to a very small segment of the knife buying public since the steels are so specialized.
They are also very-very expensive. It takes a real knife nut to fork out that much bread on a knife. Three hundred bucks and up! $$$$
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