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Just curious what you would grab in the event of "civil unrest".
There is no way I would have to worry about this issue where I live unless the cows figured out we were using them for meat...... but I am curious what city dwellers are counting on for protection other than a call to 911.
Shotgun? Handgun? Rifle? IED's?????
Firearms will be practically useless. While it will be good to have one, thinking it is going to save your life is asking a bit much and it really doesn't matter how much training you've had. No way are you going to hunker down and keep anyone at bay with whatever you think is the handy dandy.
If the time comes when widespread civil unrest occurs, guns are the last thing that will help you. They might provide some false sense of security because so many people watch a lot of movies and maybe even attend some training camps but the individual who decides he/she wants what you have is simply going to get it. They will get together, some other people who would like your stuff and they will come and get it. You might think you're going to bunker down but you aren't because you will need food and water and unless your last name is Costco or Safeway, you don't have enough to last and it doesn't matter if you have 10 water buffaloes pulled behind a deuce and a half, you don't have enough.
You aren't going to sit there and pick off anyone at 500 yards, you are dreaming. They on the other hand, will simply wait for you to pop your head up and drill you. You see, there are more of them than there are of you. You have to sleep and sorry but your wife and kids might be able to hold up their end of the bargain but only for so long. Like I said, there are more of them than there are of you.
The next thing that happens is you start shooting and people and no, you aren't going to get the attention of the police, the military is going to take care of you. While there won't be much tolerance for looters and so on, there will be less for barricaded people shooting at other people. You'll just cease to exist.
So what do you grab? Your family and you implement your plan. You have a plan right? Hopefully that plan doesn't include degenerating into a rambo type who is going to get out all the hardware, dig up the stored ammo cans and get er done.
Firearms will be practically useless. While it will be good to have one, thinking it is going to save your life is asking a bit much and it really doesn't matter how much training you've had. No way are you going to hunker down and keep anyone at bay with whatever you think is the handy dandy.
If the time comes when widespread civil unrest occurs, guns are the last thing that will help you. They might provide some false sense of security because so many people watch a lot of movies and maybe even attend some training camps but the individual who decides he/she wants what you have is simply going to get it. They will get together, some other people who would like your stuff and they will come and get it. You might think you're going to bunker down but you aren't because you will need food and water and unless your last name is Costco or Safeway, you don't have enough to last and it doesn't matter if you have 10 water buffaloes pulled behind a deuce and a half, you don't have enough.
You aren't going to sit there and pick off anyone at 500 yards, you are dreaming. They on the other hand, will simply wait for you to pop your head up and drill you. You see, there are more of them than there are of you. You have to sleep and sorry but your wife and kids might be able to hold up their end of the bargain but only for so long. Like I said, there are more of them than there are of you.
The next thing that happens is you start shooting and people and no, you aren't going to get the attention of the police, the military is going to take care of you. While there won't be much tolerance for looters and so on, there will be less for barricaded people shooting at other people. You'll just cease to exist.
So what do you grab? Your family and you implement your plan. You have a plan right? Hopefully that plan doesn't include degenerating into a rambo type who is going to get out all the hardware, dig up the stored ammo cans and get er done.
Yep, that's exactly what we plan to do. Two men held off a whole damn PD........
It can be done.
Clearly the term "suppressive fire" or "fortified" never entered your vocabulary.
Watch out for "Rambo".........He was a Green Beret.
Or in simple terms...."Leroy" and "Joey" the 3rd Street hoods don't stand a chance with a Jennings J-22 and a sawed off H&R single shot 12 gauge........
Or in simple terms...."Leroy" and "Joey" the 3rd Street hoods don't stand a chance with a Jennings J-22 and a sawed off H&R single shot 12 gauge........
I'm laugh so hard. First, this "Green Beret" usage is wrong. It is "Special Forces" and anyone who knows anything about it knows that. When I hear the term "Green Beret" thoughts of wannbes come to mind. A "Green Beret" is head dress, a hat so to speak. While civilians use the term, it is a clear giveaway for wannabes.
Suppressive fire. Oh please, put down the video games. Spray and pray is probably what you're talking about. Just how long are you going to lay down suppressive fire hmmm? Do you even know what suppressive fire is? Highly doubtful considering the context in which you used it. You are going to suppress who and then do what? More video games.
Fortified? Any and every "fortified" position can be taken. Right, you're going to go underground, fire up the ol generator, drink water through a tube with a filter on one end and eat cardboard and fight the good fight. Time for a reality check. About 3 days into whatever idea you have about suppresive fire and fortified position you are going to run out of space to store your poop or will that go into the hole formerly held by your ammo cans?
Lets move onto Leroy and Joey. Leroy and Joey you see, don't care much about life and death, they've seen more death than any of the video games you've experienced. Leroy battled it out with the police but more important, with the rest of the hood long before you fired up your BB rifle and decided to take on rubber ducks. He doesn't care about you, only what you have and he'll line of bippy, bappy, happy, sappy and lappy ahead of him just to draw you out while he sits there waiting for you to move out of your cover to behind your concealment because you don't know the difference, but he sure does. You see, Leroy has been shot six or seven times, stabbed maybe 8 and would just as soon shoot his best rider for a rolex.
Meanwhile, good ol Jeppy is out there where you can't see him. You've "fortified" yourself into a coffin and you can't get out if you have too. You've brainwashed yourself into thinking some AR-15 look alike is going to save your rear end when all it is going to do is become someone else's trophy. Yeah, you went to that fancy prepper training program and practiced all those fancy moves when some moron puts a gun to the back of your head. Problem is, now things are different.
What is different?
No one is moving in slow motion like your favorite movie or that fancy new fangled disarming technique you practiced at the "camp" and never really tried on someone who stood about 8 feet behind you instead of putting the barrel of their rifle or pistol to the back of your head. Yeah, you swing around and "where did he go?" is the last thing in your mind before it's lights out.
The only thing your "fortified" position does it make you a sitting duck because without it you are just another turkey in the shooting gallery. So you hunker down, turn on that hand crank radio hoping someone is coming to help you out. Instead, your cute little fortified position has a big red X on it and someone has in the middle of the night, figured out a way around your Big 5 Sporting Goods night vision and pushed a garden hose just outside your air intake. You know, the one that filters out everything? Yeah, they've hooked up the other end to a 100 gallon propane tank and are letting it fill up your fortified position. As you sit there with all the maps and fancy red glow flashlights plotting your next move, Jeppy is sitting back and waiting a while. He's drinking a beer and smiling to himself because he knows what you don't. That in about 15 minutes you'll be the first human being on Mars.
Yeah, Jeppy did all that with a garden hose, an old propane tank and some patience. Heck, he even got you to light the propane because you took out those special handloads, you know, the ones that are at max pressure because you think speedy bullets are the way to go. He shoots at you with a wrist rocket slingshot and you let one go with your belted magnum, flame shooting out 10 feet from the muzzle.
You try to think but the only thing that comes to mind is "poof". Jeppy then walks in, takes what you have and leaves the rest to bippy, bappy, happy, sappy and lappy.
I'm laugh so hard. First, this "Green Beret" usage is wrong. It is "Special Forces" and anyone who knows anything about it knows that. When I hear the term "Green Beret" thoughts of wannbes come to mind. A "Green Beret" is head dress, a hat so to speak. While civilians use the term, it is a clear giveaway for wannabes.
Suppressive fire. Oh please, put down the video games. Spray and pray is probably what you're talking about. Just how long are you going to lay down suppressive fire hmmm? Do you even know what suppressive fire is? Highly doubtful considering the context in which you used it. You are going to suppress who and then do what? More video games.
Fortified? Any and every "fortified" position can be taken. Right, you're going to go underground, fire up the ol generator, drink water through a tube with a filter on one end and eat cardboard and fight the good fight. Time for a reality check. About 3 days into whatever idea you have about suppresive fire and fortified position you are going to run out of space to store your poop or will that go into the hole formerly held by your ammo cans?
Lets move onto Leroy and Joey. Leroy and Joey you see, don't care much about life and death, they've seen more death than any of the video games you've experienced. Leroy battled it out with the police but more important, with the rest of the hood long before you fired up your BB rifle and decided to take on rubber ducks. He doesn't care about you, only what you have and he'll line of bippy, bappy, happy, sappy and lappy ahead of him just to draw you out while he sits there waiting for you to move out of your cover to behind your concealment because you don't know the difference, but he sure does. You see, Leroy has been shot six or seven times, stabbed maybe 8 and would just as soon shoot his best rider for a rolex.
Meanwhile, good ol Jeppy is out there where you can't see him. You've "fortified" yourself into a coffin and you can't get out if you have too. You've brainwashed yourself into thinking some AR-15 look alike is going to save your rear end when all it is going to do is become someone else's trophy. Yeah, you went to that fancy prepper training program and practiced all those fancy moves when some moron puts a gun to the back of your head. Problem is, now things are different.
What is different?
No one is moving in slow motion like your favorite movie or that fancy new fangled disarming technique you practiced at the "camp" and never really tried on someone who stood about 8 feet behind you instead of putting the barrel of their rifle or pistol to the back of your head. Yeah, you swing around and "where did he go?" is the last thing in your mind before it's lights out.
The only thing your "fortified" position does it make you a sitting duck because without it you are just another turkey in the shooting gallery. So you hunker down, turn on that hand crank radio hoping someone is coming to help you out. Instead, your cute little fortified position has a big red X on it and someone has in the middle of the night, figured out a way around your Big 5 Sporting Goods night vision and pushed a garden hose just outside your air intake. You know, the one that filters out everything? Yeah, they've hooked up the other end to a 100 gallon propane tank and are letting it fill up your fortified position. As you sit there with all the maps and fancy red glow flashlights plotting your next move, Jeppy is sitting back and waiting a while. He's drinking a beer and smiling to himself because he knows what you don't. That in about 15 minutes you'll be the first human being on Mars.
Yeah, Jeppy did all that with a garden hose, an old propane tank and some patience. Heck, he even got you to light the propane because you took out those special handloads, you know, the ones that are at max pressure because you think speedy bullets are the way to go. He shoots at you with a wrist rocket slingshot and you let one go with your belted magnum, flame shooting out 10 feet from the muzzle.
You try to think but the only thing that comes to mind is "poof". Jeppy then walks in, takes what you have and leaves the rest to bippy, bappy, happy, sappy and lappy.
Put away the movies and video games.
Nah, "Special Forces" could be NAVY SEALs, Green Berets, Delta Force, MEU SOC..........
Anyways......Rambo would have a Chris Reeve Yarborough........
Course you knew all that.
You are confused on even regular Army combat tactics.
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Oh please guys with my military training I could take on most small countries.....
Oh wait, I don't have a ship in my back yard... I can't find those buttons that make things go boom.....Nevermind
Nah, "Special Forces" could be NAVY SEALs, Green Berets, Delta Force, MEU SOC..........
Anyways......Rambo would have a Chris Reeve Yarborough........
Course you knew all that.
You are confused on even regular Army combat tactics.
Absolutely wrong.
"Special Forces" and not the same as "special forces" . More wannabe talk.
"Special Forces" or more correctly "US Army Special Forces" are what civilians call "Green Berets". Rangers, Seals, Delta and so on and including LRRP and on and on are "special operations forces" or for short, "special forces".
The distinction and difference is the capitalization because one is a title while the other is not.
The biggest giveaway and I think the other guys in here will agree.
You give up too damn easy.
WE NEVER QUIT!!!
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but I am curious what city dwellers are counting on for protection other than a call to 911. 
