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Old 05-23-2014, 02:19 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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If you aren't planning on killing government agents the the government having a kill switch to your gun shouldn't be a problem!
Would you accept a kill switch on your car accessible by the govt or a way to unlock your house?
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Old 05-23-2014, 03:37 PM
 
Location: West Madison^WMHT
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If you aren't planning on killing government agents the the government having a kill switch to your gun shouldn't be a problem!
The US government has done oh so well at keeping control over their secrets, such a remote control would never leak to other users, right?

If a "kill switch" had existed in 2005, I'm sure New Orleans Police Superintendent Eddie Compass would have loved it. Do you doubt the government would have set it to "No shoot" for all of Los Angeles if they'd had the option in 1992?

Turn off the rifles of the Korean store owners on their roof tops, then apologize to their next of kin when you realize there is no equivalent switch to disable the looter's molotov cocktails, or Damian "Football" Williams' famous brick.
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Old 05-23-2014, 04:14 PM
 
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This is exactly why that POS gunclub and it's owner were hammered by the SoCal gun community.

AngryTP knows whom I'm talking about.
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Old 05-23-2014, 05:24 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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This is exactly why that POS gunclub and it's owner were hammered by the SoCal gun community.

AngryTP knows whom I'm talking about.
Indeedy
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Old 05-24-2014, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Fredericksburg, VA
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If you aren't planning on killing government agents the the government having a kill switch to your gun shouldn't be a problem!
Since all of American criminal jurisprudence is based on the presumption of innocence until proven guilty, the government doesn't need a kill switch because it assumes guilt before proven by trial.
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Old 05-24-2014, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Mandate all you want... My weapons will never have one installed.. Guaranteed. I am willing to bet Iam not alone in this sentiment.
The only kind of electronics I want on a gun are optics.
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Old 05-27-2014, 07:40 AM
 
Location: Blah
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If you aren't planning on killing government agents the the government having a kill switch to your gun shouldn't be a problem!
Two Words,...Ruby Ridge.


Ruby Ridge all started because of some dispute between Waver and some other guy. The guy then started flooding the FBI etc with false letters accusing Waver of plotting against the government which was false.
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Old 05-27-2014, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Fredericksburg, VA
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Two Words,...Ruby Ridge.


Ruby Ridge all started because of some dispute between Waver and some other guy. The guy then started flooding the FBI etc with false letters accusing Waver of plotting against the government which was false.
No joke. Now that I think of it, anyone who trusts the government with a "kill switch" may not be of sound enough mind to be a gun owner to begin with. We need responsible and mature gun owners, not naive ones. If one is foolish enough to trust in government with such a profoundly powerful responsibility, I question that person's ability to discern other important things, such as proper handling and use of a firearm.
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Old 05-27-2014, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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A government controlled "kill switch" negates the 2nd Amendment. It will never fly.
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Old 05-27-2014, 10:21 AM
 
Location: West Madison^WMHT
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Exclamation Eugene Volokh's limited endorsement of "Smart Guns"

Volokh, writing for the Washington Post, has decided "Smart Guns" aren't so bad, and that a future smart gun mandate could be acceptable. Since when is the sole purpose of the second amendment "the right to keep and bear arms in self-defense."?

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And if (as I asked you to assume) such smart guns became generally about as reliable and about as costly as ordinary guns, I think smart gun mandates might be constitutional under the theory that they do not materially interfere with the right to keep and bear arms in self-defense. (Imagine a requirement that printing presses or cellphones contain anti-theft technology; I donít think this would, by itself, violate the freedom of the press or of speech, if the requirement didnít make the devices materially less reliable or more expensive.)
Found via Captain's Journal.
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