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Old 06-16-2014, 10:04 PM
 
Location: NWA/SWMO
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Mike:
That's becoming the same problem in Washington, and it's sad to see a place like California going the same way. Like you mentioned, Washington was up until even a few years ago a very friendly 2nd-Amendment state, but the Seattle-Tacoma Metro Area's increasing domination of state politics is eroding the situation rapidly.

The same thing BTW, is happening to conservationism here. The environmental extremists have turned a state that was once a model of conservationism and wildlife management into a complete disaster. But that's another story...
This sis why I'm not moving to Colorado. That state is ruined except for its physical beauty.
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Old 06-17-2014, 04:16 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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As far as I'm concerned, AZ is the #1 gun friendliest state.

FWIW, I can't even find a place in Midland Texas to go shooting! One range with a $200 annual fee....that's it so far.

Don't even mention going out of town to shoot in open land....it ain't gonna happen around here.
Wow, even here in S Cal I can drive a bit and shoot all I want on BLM land within an hour of the City. We usually just end up camping overnight and make a weekend of it.
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Old 06-17-2014, 04:17 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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This sis why I'm not moving to Colorado. That state is ruined except for its physical beauty.
I'm from CO and it really pains me to see what is happening there. It was my backup plan.
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Old 06-17-2014, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Arizona, The American Southwest
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Mike:
That's becoming the same problem in Washington, and it's sad to see a place like California going the same way. Like you mentioned, Washington was up until even a few years ago a very friendly 2nd-Amendment state, but the Seattle-Tacoma Metro Area's increasing domination of state politics is eroding the situation rapidly.

The same thing BTW, is happening to conservationism here. The environmental extremists have turned a state that was once a model of conservationism and wildlife management into a complete disaster. But that's another story...
I was talking to one of my co-workers today and he told me that the states of California, Oregon, and Washington will not allow Arizona residents with CCWs to carry a handgun with them in their vehicles, even if they're not concealed, which is stupid.

I lived in Oregon, just outside of Portland for a short time in the mid 1990s and back then it was a Second Amendment-friendly state and from what I heard today, I'm not sure if it'll stay that way. It's also unfortunate that such anti-gun groups like the ones you mentioned are gradually chipping away at our Second Amendment and possibly the rest of our freedoms in Seattle/Tacoma, and probably other states as well. As far as I'm concerned if they want to live in a communist/socialist country where only the military is allowed to have weapons, North Korea is right across the Pacific, I'm sure they'll be welcomed over there..
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Old 06-17-2014, 06:28 PM
 
Location: North Idaho
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I own guns. My friends own guns. I am not aware of any problems. If I want to buy a gun, I can. Why? I am not mentally ill. Nor am I convicted felon.

One can either believe the tea party or reality. IMO a background check and a two week waiting period is fine. If you need a handgun today you can buy one on the street.

And for your information, WA makes CA look damn moderate.
Somebody else may have already pointed this out, but the bolded text above will land you in jail. It is not legal to buy any firearm in CA without going thru an FFL, having a background check done, and dealing with the 10 day waiting period.

Further, there is no state in the country that makes CA look moderate.

To the OP: My concern would be where is the state headed with respect to gun control laws. Yes, we can own guns here in CA today. There are a couple areas where we have some restrictions that other states do not, such as 10 round limits on magazine capacity, and a confusing set of laws about semi-auto centerfire rifles. But all in all we manage to get by, and have fun shooting our firearms here in CA.

The future does not look so rosy.

The Attorney General has declared that the requirement to demonstrate the feasibility of micro-stamping has been met, so now a gun must include that feature to be added to the CA safe handgun roster. No manufacturers have indicated they will meet that requirement, so unless something changes I expect in a few years you will not be able to buy any semi-auto handguns in CA.

We also have a similar law on the books regarding so-called smart guns. There are 2 on the roster, which kicks in a similar requirement that guns must incorporate this technology to be added to the roster. Unless something changes this will drive all revolvers off the roster over a period of time. Whenever a manufacturer makes even a minor change, for example to improve reliability, or to reduce production costs, they must reapply for the roster.

The political environment here is VERY hostile towards firearms. The legislature features a new set of gun control laws every session. On the docket this year is a requirement to obtain a permit to purchase ammo, and a set of regulations that will effectively ban on-line ammo purchases. Last year we saw an attempt to ban all semi-automatic rifles that fortunately was vetoed by Brown. Ironically, Jerry is not as bad as the legislature, and often is our last hope other then the courts.

IMO, if firearms rights are important to your business, or to you personally, I would not move to CA. When we retire in about 3 years we are moving to Idaho.
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Old 06-17-2014, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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I'm not sure if that's the case in only larger metro areas or the entire State of Texas, but I heard that carrying or having a loaded hand-gun in a vehicle is considered a punishable offense.
Any adult Texas citizen who is legally able to own a firearm can carry a loaded handgun anywhere inside their vehicle as long as it is not visible (ie: concealed).
No permit necessary.
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Old 06-18-2014, 12:35 AM
 
Location: so cal
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I did not read all six pages, did not need to. Bottom line is California sucks for gun owners and hunters. No I am not native to this state. I spent the first half of my life in Iowa and Nebraska. I do my big game hunting in Nebraska and Arizona.
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Old 06-18-2014, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Earth
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Any adult Texas citizen who is legally able to own a firearm can carry a loaded handgun anywhere inside their vehicle as long as it is not visible (ie: concealed).
No permit necessary.

...Just don't carry it on your belt! That will freak out the locals.
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Old 06-18-2014, 10:41 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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I did not read all six pages, did not need to. Bottom line is California sucks for gun owners and hunters. No I am not native to this state. I spent the first half of my life in Iowa and Nebraska. I do my big game hunting in Nebraska and Arizona.
There's good hunting here. Don't discount it.
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Old 06-18-2014, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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"My concern would be where the state is headed with regard to gun control laws...the future does not look so rosy."

That's kind of what I was trying to determine when I originally posted this. California has been known (at least in the past) to roll back restrictive legislation (i.e. the 'Tax Revolt' started in California).

I think though, like a lot of West Coast states, the ultra-left urban areas are simply dominating state policy any more.
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