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Old 08-05-2014, 12:30 AM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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Spent three years on a high school JROTC rifle team.

When I got to ships in the Navy and could shoot accurately on a rolling deck, another officer said, "WOW! Where did you learn to shoot like that?"

It wasn't your traditional varsity team in high school, but it certainly did work for me!
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Old 08-08-2014, 01:59 PM
 
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Same can be said of a lot of things, the younger you are when you start doing it. The better you are when you have to do it.
I know plenty of cops, some of them are not and never were into cars. Cant drive worth a lick. Those are the ones that lose it in a chase of any speed.
Then you got the ones that dad let take out to frozen lakes or sand dunes and let them rip it up at an early age. Those are the guys you cant out run.
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Old 08-08-2014, 02:35 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, California
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a guy I knew was a Tri Athelete / swimmer before he joined the navy and made it on the SEAL TEAMS

many of the skills that makes a good soldier / fighting man are not taught in the military

some of it comes from being a natural or having the knack for it, just like some people have a natural artistic skill, or the knack for being a good fighter, some people are just natural born fighters, some people are really good with technical things and know electronics like the back of their hand, the military didnt teach them they were already like that before they joined.

"You cant squeeze blood from a turnip" if you send a bad recruit to the military they will be a bad soldier, people dont change much, they adapt, a bad person will always be a bad soldier, unreliable in combat, you cant make something good out of nothing, thats why the military is more selective on who they will take.

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Old 10-05-2014, 01:48 PM
 
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I've never been impressed at all, by the rifle skills (pistol skills are not taught in the military, at all) of Marines. All they are taught, really, is slowfire bullseye stuff, and many forget even that much in a year or so.
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Old 10-05-2014, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Spots Wyoming
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I've never been impressed at all, by the rifle skills (pistol skills are not taught in the military, at all) of Marines. All they are taught, really, is slowfire bullseye stuff, and many forget even that much in a year or so.
I have to agree with you. The normal military training is accuracy, slow fire, methodical shooting. Notice I said 'Normal'. There is other training, that is not normal. I spent 500 rounds per week, and I wouldn't call that normal. 18 years I spent sending them down range. My shoulder is shot out. I can't send more than 50 rounds down range without being in pain. I used to shoot three dcm matches in a day. 5 rounds for spot, 50 rounds for match. Can't do but one match anymore. A Garand is a heavy weapon and absorbs a lot. Well, I used to think so. Today, that Garand feels like a bb gun. hahaha

In some of the military training today, our members don't even shoot. I was Navy and our members that were on security teams only shot once per quarter for what they called 'famfire'. Familiarization Fire. To keep them familiar with the operation of the weapon, that's it. I carried and was a little more practiced. I was issued 25,000 rounds per quarter of .30-06, and .45. (match grade) I was expected to burn it all. Most of the time, I did. Some times, I got my brother to help. He was also on the 'team'.
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Old 10-05-2014, 05:25 PM
 
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For distance shooting at 1500 yards, you can keep your M1, give me a radio and a gunship or a M1A1, tank that is.
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Old 10-05-2014, 07:03 PM
 
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I never fired a single (authorized) rd during my entire hitch in Asia. Nobody else did either, and nobody did where my brother went (Germany) either. They "qualified" us with an ink pen, just signed off that it had occurred. My other brother, in the Navy, never fired a shot in basic. They were supposed to fire 10 rds of .22, with a single shot rifle, but his partner got up without opening the bolt, and got them both kicked off the firing relay. I was in during nam, indeed got orders there, but fired less than 300 rds, total. The military is a very, very bad joke.
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Old 10-05-2014, 08:04 PM
 
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I never fired a single (authorized) rd during my entire hitch in Asia. Nobody else did either, and nobody did where my brother went (Germany) either. They "qualified" us with an ink pen, just signed off that it had occurred. My other brother, in the Navy, never fired a shot in basic. They were supposed to fire 10 rds of .22, with a single shot rifle, but his partner got up without opening the bolt, and got them both kicked off the firing relay. I was in during nam, indeed got orders there, but fired less than 300 rds, total. The military is a very, very bad joke.
I knew a Korean war vet who had the tip of one of his fingers blown off, and most certainly was firing his rifle. Killed a bunch of people too. One of my friends dad was a helicopter gunner in Vietnam, along with the kills from his mounted gun he had to take down a few people with his 1911, says that the .45 does a great job if you put it on target. Just because you and the people you were around weren't in the thick of it doesn't mean nobody else was.
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Old 10-05-2014, 08:29 PM
 
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I knew a Korean war vet who had the tip of one of his fingers blown off, and most certainly was firing his rifle. Killed a bunch of people too. One of my friends dad was a helicopter gunner in Vietnam, along with the kills from his mounted gun he had to take down a few people with his 1911, says that the .45 does a great job if you put it on target. Just because you and the people you were around weren't in the thick of it doesn't mean nobody else was.
I joined up during Nam. I walked away after Desert Storm. Seen a lot of action between the two.

I have a good friend that was a POW during WWII. He escaped while being held. He favored the 1911, it brought him home.
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Old 10-05-2014, 09:24 PM
 
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i aint 80, which is how old you'd have to be to have fought in the war, we've KEPT 30k-40k of troops in Korea since the war. NOBODY there did any shooting, except perhaps up on the Z. and I doubt that they did (or do) either. There's 1.5 million guys in the active military,and in peactime, they get only a few million rds per year to practice with. in training for nam, most guys only got basic, 200 rds or so. The army had you fire a whole 10 rds standing. that's it. everything else from prone or the foxhole, with sandbag rest. less than 10% of the guys in nam had infantry AIT training. MP''s truck drivers, etc, all we got was basic training. even with the best instructor right there, you need thousands of rds to be a snap shooter, under pressure, with either shoulder, and lots and lots of dryfire.

We almost never got the chance to dryfire even in basic.. In korea, as an MP, I never got the chance to (officially) so much as touch an M16. My issue weapon was a 1911 and that's all I got. the other guys never touched their M16's, either. They stayed locked in the racks. the few who had rifles on duty, just left them there and the guys swapped. yes, we had weapons cards, but so what? the mags were full of sand, and stuffed 4 in a pouch (20 rders) designed for 3 mags, so tightly you culdn't get one out without pulling off your fingernails. not only could you not have a rd chambered, you could not have the mag in the gun. REal serious security around nuke missiles. a few miles from one of the hottest borders in the world. :-) Our military has never been anything but a joke, since ww2.
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