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Old 09-16-2014, 08:08 PM
 
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I'm not gonna' make any claims about long shots ... I didn't get those opportunities years ago and I don't try for them now when it means the likelihood of a long trek over to where I may have dropped some game ...

but I've been using lever action 30-30's (starting with a well used Sears branded Winchester) and a 30-06 Remington 721.

Yes, I know they're old and dated and can't hold a candle to the newer potent cartridges/calibers/loads, and been carried everywhere and look it,

but when the time came to pull the trigger on deer, antelope, and elk (and a coyote or two) ...

they've never let me down.

Good shot placement was more important, IMO, than more firepower.

The only cartridge I've seriously considered making another investment in a rifle for was a .270. But haven't brought myself to that point yet ... given that I've been as successful as I need to be with what I've already got.
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Old 09-17-2014, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Chattanooga, TN
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308 has always done well as had my 30-06. I never had a issue with either round. I was thinking the 300 because I'm planning on doing deer and bear since one of the areas I go ( when I go the season is open to both at that time).
OK, now we're talking... yer goin' ba'r huntin'. This explains the magnum upgrade.

Since you appear to live in SoCal I'm assuming you're going after black bear (average 300-lb, max 500-600-lb) and not the lighter-colored big bears (grizzly, brown, polar). Any heavy deer round should also work for smallish black bear (<300-lb or so). This includes your existing .308 and .30-06. Just pick a heavy, slow-expanding, deep-penetrating bullet designed for thick-skinned game. You could use the same cartridge for deer, or maybe carry two cartridge types on a combined hunt.

That said, I'll agree that if I were intentionally going after a bear, and I thought I may run into a 600-lb monster, I'd personally carry a mini-cannon. The thought of tracking a wounded bear into the bushes... no, I want something tossing a really big chunk of lead fast enough that he's going down with one good shot. If I were in your situation I'd give that .300Mag a serious look.


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I looked up this story from earlier this summer in my area: http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2...t-to-red-bank/
Repeatedly described as "massive" and "huge", this one weighed in at less than 250-lb. Basically the same as a large deer or wild hog. So again, a .308 with a heavy bullet will do fine. But if you want a .300Mag, and you can afford it, then go for it.

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Old 09-17-2014, 05:02 PM
 
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Unless your gonna hunt Kodiak Grizzly or Polar Bear a 30-06 will kill anything in the Western Hemisphere quick. Especially given the wide variety on ammo/gun/optics combos.
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Old 09-23-2014, 06:35 PM
 
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OK, now we're talking... yer goin' ba'r huntin'. This explains the magnum upgrade.

Since you appear to live in SoCal I'm assuming you're going after black bear (average 300-lb, max 500-600-lb) and not the lighter-colored big bears (grizzly, brown, polar). Any heavy deer round should also work for smallish black bear (<300-lb or so). This includes your existing .308 and .30-06. Just pick a heavy, slow-expanding, deep-penetrating bullet designed for thick-skinned game. You could use the same cartridge for deer, or maybe carry two cartridge types on a combined hunt.

That said, I'll agree that if I were intentionally going after a bear, and I thought I may run into a 600-lb monster, I'd personally carry a mini-cannon. The thought of tracking a wounded bear into the bushes... no, I want something tossing a really big chunk of lead fast enough that he's going down with one good shot. If I were in your situation I'd give that .300Mag a serious look.


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I looked up this story from earlier this summer in my area: 'Massive' bear struck by SUV on Dayton Boulevard in Red Bank | Times Free Press
Repeatedly described as "massive" and "huge", this one weighed in at less than 250-lb. Basically the same as a large deer or wild hog. So again, a .308 with a heavy bullet will do fine. But if you want a .300Mag, and you can afford it, then go for it.

I usually try and get a bear and deer tag and duck tags. Sometimes the stars align and my vacation falls smack dab between it all. So its a week of running around chasing furry four legged animals. This year I got a bear tag with my deer tag. I don't do bear a lot because the meat is a bit greasy and I'm not huge on trophy stuff. My uncle said if I get a bear he wants the hide for a rug. The meat I'll just have it butchered. Sausage, jerky rump shoulder etc.. I usually do it evert other year or so. Yeah its black bear. The area I go I see a LOT of bears. In fact lately I usually come across a bear a lot more than bucks. I don't fancy myself a sniper so no 900 yard shots for me.
I was at the range this weekend to sight in my rifle and this gentleman next to me had a 300 win mag and offered to let me shoot it. It shot really really nice. I don't think I really need a 300WM. Its just really easy to swap barrels on Savage and I can get a ready made barrel for about 300 and go no go guages for about 40-50 bucks.
I just thought because of my buddy's rambling there was something to 300WM. I've been reading up and seems like 308/30-06 is more than adequate. At least for the type of hunting I do.

I appreciate all your guys info.
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Old 09-29-2014, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Chattanooga, TN
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An article in our local paper kinda brings everything into perspective. TN has a BOW season for bears, and at least 5 were taken on opening weekend:

Bow season on black bears opens in TN - WRCBtv.com | Chattanooga News, Weather & Sports
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