U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Hobbies and Recreation > Guns and Hunting
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 09-13-2014, 10:35 PM
 
16,493 posts, read 17,525,712 times
Reputation: 23556

Advertisements

Hey guys
Ok I have a Savage 110 rifle. I rebarreled it to 308 from 30-06. Strictly to consolidate. I had way too many different calibers to try and feed. But now I'm thinking to go with a magnum barrel 300 win mag or order a magnum barrel 30-06. I'm not sure what are good barrels these days. I usually get factory barrels. I'm not looking into long long range stuff. I don't reload. I do buy hunting ammo for hunting and basic stuff for range. Basically deer hunting maybe 500 yards at the furthest with a average of 200. I hunt pretty wooded areas so the shots are rarely long distance. I could simply stick to the 308 it's worked fine. I dont reload but when I drink beer its Dos Equis.
So stick to 308 ( which pretty much takes care of anything I've come across)
Go with 300 win mag
Go with 30-06
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 09-14-2014, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Spots Wyoming
18,696 posts, read 35,420,950 times
Reputation: 2147483647
Personally, I would stick with the .308, if all you hunt is deer. A .300 mag is way more than what is needed. Many long range competitors use a .308 for 1000, 1250, and 1500 yards, because of its accuracy. You won't gain anything with the mags.
__________________
[B][COLOR="Red"]"No Copyrighted Material."[/COLOR][/B]
[URL="http://www.city-data.com/"][COLOR="SeaGreen"]CD Home page[/COLOR][/URL], [URL="http://www.city-data.com/forumtos.html"][COLOR="seagreen"]TOS (Terms of Service)[/COLOR][/URL], [URL="http://www.city-data.com/forum/faq/107997-search-function-using-search-function.html"][COLOR="SeaGreen"]How to Search,[/COLOR][/URL] [URL="http://www.city-data.com/forum/faq/"][COLOR="SeaGreen"]FAQ's[/COLOR][/URL], [URL="http://www.city-data.com/forum/faq/70589-guide-guide-city-data-posting.html"][COLOR="SeaGreen"]Guide[/COLOR][/URL]
[URL="http://www.city-data.com/forum/wyoming/"]Wyoming[/URL], [URL="http://www.city-data.com/forum/montana/"]Montana[/URL], [URL="http://www.city-data.com/forum/north-dakota/"]North Dakota[/URL], [URL="http://www.city-data.com/forum/south-dakota/"]South Dakota[/URL], [URL="http://www.city-data.com/forum/guns-hunting/"]Guns and Hunting[/URL]
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-14-2014, 01:05 PM
Status: "Gone hunting until December!" (set 24 days ago)
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
10,947 posts, read 14,593,711 times
Reputation: 11405
I would not get a 300WM for your hunting needs. A .308 is just fine. Spend that extra dough you saved on top notch optics and some ammo and have at it!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-15-2014, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Eastern Washington
13,388 posts, read 42,724,996 times
Reputation: 11475
If it shoots well as it is, I would say leave it alone. On average .308s shoot a bit more accurately than 30-06. Not always, but on average. Most magnums are harder to get to shoot accurately, and due to the increased recoil, are harder to shoot as accurately as a .308.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-16-2014, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Chattanooga, TN
2,773 posts, read 3,678,723 times
Reputation: 4236
I never understood the need to carry a mini-cannon to kill a deer. My brother hunts Mississippi whitetail at ranges much shorter than yours with magnum rounds. I'll admit he can go farther with his magnums than I can with my .30-30, but I can count one hand the number deer that I've let go as too far out of range. It's not that I take chancy long-range shots, it's that I hunt in locations where I can't even see deer that are out of range.

If I do get a longer-range rifle it will probably be a 7mm-08.

In order to answer your question, however, we kinda need to know if you have any voids in your hunting capability. If you already have cartridges to do everything you need to do (implied by "I had way too many different calibers to try and feed"), then maybe a magnum is the way to go. Not for the reason you listed, though, because there are much better options for deer at 500-yards than a .300WM. But just because you want one and won't be happy until you get one. If you really want a magnum, then for hunting deer at the range you stated I'd look at a 7mm Rem Mag. Either one would be over-kill, the 7mm less-so than the .300.

Or, more practically because you don't hand-load, go to where ever you buy bullets and look around. How many different varieties of each caliber are available? Hunters in different parts of the country prefer different calibers. You may find a dozen different brands/weights of [caliber] in every Walmart in Montana, but exactly zero boxes of the same caliber in Vermont. If you can get gobs of .300WM locally but have trouble finding 7mmRM, then your choice should be easy.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-16-2014, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Texas
5,586 posts, read 11,843,095 times
Reputation: 10545
It would be far cheaper to buy a new 300 Win Mag than to attempt to rebarrel the current action. The issue is the bolt and length of the action. You'd first need a magnum length action. Then you would need the bolt face to be turned for the larger head of the magnum case. Not to say you can't build one on the current action though. The Remington 40X in 30/338 mag is on a short action receiver. You can load the round but you have to take the bolt out to remove a loaded round. An empty round will just barely clear.

If you are shooting 150gr bullets or lighter, the 308 is the superior round to the 3006. Heavier bullets and the 3006 is the better round. In most instances, the animal on the other end never knows the difference. I'd stay with the 308 for deer size game. If going after something larger like elk or moose, you need to move up considerably and my choice would not be a 30 caliber anything. A 338 MAG would be the smallest.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-16-2014, 08:56 AM
 
1,176 posts, read 1,897,832 times
Reputation: 1397
A Savage 110 will accept the medium bore winchester magnum cartridges. The sticking point will be the bolt face, but that's actually a pretty easy swap on a Savage.

Of course, I think that if you have a long action with a bolt face of about .470, all you really hunt are deer and you want to rebarrel the rifle... You should put a 24"-26" .257 barrel on it...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-16-2014, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Spots Wyoming
18,696 posts, read 35,420,950 times
Reputation: 2147483647
Even if you decide to start hunting Elk, a .300 is overkill. I hunt Elk out to 400-500 yards and I use a .30-06. I seldom have to walk down my kill by more than 100 feet. They usually drop where they are hit. The ballistics on a .308 are almost identical. Almost.
__________________
[B][COLOR="Red"]"No Copyrighted Material."[/COLOR][/B]
[URL="http://www.city-data.com/"][COLOR="SeaGreen"]CD Home page[/COLOR][/URL], [URL="http://www.city-data.com/forumtos.html"][COLOR="seagreen"]TOS (Terms of Service)[/COLOR][/URL], [URL="http://www.city-data.com/forum/faq/107997-search-function-using-search-function.html"][COLOR="SeaGreen"]How to Search,[/COLOR][/URL] [URL="http://www.city-data.com/forum/faq/"][COLOR="SeaGreen"]FAQ's[/COLOR][/URL], [URL="http://www.city-data.com/forum/faq/70589-guide-guide-city-data-posting.html"][COLOR="SeaGreen"]Guide[/COLOR][/URL]
[URL="http://www.city-data.com/forum/wyoming/"]Wyoming[/URL], [URL="http://www.city-data.com/forum/montana/"]Montana[/URL], [URL="http://www.city-data.com/forum/north-dakota/"]North Dakota[/URL], [URL="http://www.city-data.com/forum/south-dakota/"]South Dakota[/URL], [URL="http://www.city-data.com/forum/guns-hunting/"]Guns and Hunting[/URL]
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-16-2014, 07:17 PM
 
16,493 posts, read 17,525,712 times
Reputation: 23556
Quote:
Originally Posted by jwkilgore View Post
I never understood the need to carry a mini-cannon to kill a deer. My brother hunts Mississippi whitetail at ranges much shorter than yours with magnum rounds. I'll admit he can go farther with his magnums than I can with my .30-30, but I can count one hand the number deer that I've let go as too far out of range. It's not that I take chancy long-range shots, it's that I hunt in locations where I can't even see deer that are out of range.

If I do get a longer-range rifle it will probably be a 7mm-08.

In order to answer your question, however, we kinda need to know if you have any voids in your hunting capability. If you already have cartridges to do everything you need to do (implied by "I had way too many different calibers to try and feed"), then maybe a magnum is the way to go. Not for the reason you listed, though, because there are much better options for deer at 500-yards than a .300WM. But just because you want one and won't be happy until you get one. If you really want a magnum, then for hunting deer at the range you stated I'd look at a 7mm Rem Mag. Either one would be over-kill, the 7mm less-so than the .300.

Or, more practically because you don't hand-load, go to where ever you buy bullets and look around. How many different varieties of each caliber are available? Hunters in different parts of the country prefer different calibers. You may find a dozen different brands/weights of [caliber] in every Walmart in Montana, but exactly zero boxes of the same caliber in Vermont. If you can get gobs of .300WM locally but have trouble finding 7mmRM, then your choice should be easy.

I borrowed a 300 when I went bear hunting a few years back because my buddy just went on and on how great the 300 is. I normally use 308 or 30-06 with deer type rounds Winchester Remington store bought stuff etc.I had a bunch of different rifles. A while back I decided to sort of consolidate and got rid of a bunch of them. Most were dust collectors anyway. I did not get a bear that time I went hunting so I have no idea how the bullet would of worked although I did shoot the rifle. The recoil is bearable to me.
308 has always done well as had my 30-06. I never had a issue with either round. I was thinking the 300 because I'm planning on doing deer and bear since one of the areas I go ( when I go the season is open to both at that time). I'm not in the I gotta have it or I'll die school of thought. So if its too much round I really don't wanna do end the money. I have a Leupold scope although it's older seems to work fine
Don't get me wrong I want to shoot the deer and drop it not tear it to hell with a cannon. My buddy just talks about it as the 300 being the magic potion. I thought there may be something to it. My main experience is with 308/30-06 7mm mag. I had a few 30-30s and 270s but I rarely used those. I just thought maybe the 300 may be a better all over type of round

Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapperL View Post
It would be far cheaper to buy a new 300 Win Mag than to attempt to rebarrel the current action. The issue is the bolt and length of the action. You'd first need a magnum length action. Then you would need the bolt face to be turned for the larger head of the magnum case. Not to say you can't build one on the current action though. The Remington 40X in 30/338 mag is on a short action receiver. You can load the round but you have to take the bolt out to remove a loaded round. An empty round will just barely clear.

If you are shooting 150gr bullets or lighter, the 308 is the superior round to the 3006. Heavier bullets and the 3006 is the better round. In most instances, the animal on the other end never knows the difference. I'd stay with the 308 for deer size game. If going after something larger like elk or moose, you need to move up considerably and my choice would not be a 30 caliber anything. A 338 MAG would be the smallest.
Actually I looked into it. This action will take the 300 win mag because the bolt face is removable. It's actually a long action. I'm not planning on elk or moose. I use 155 grain 308 ammo
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-16-2014, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Cody, WY
9,187 posts, read 10,136,018 times
Reputation: 18283
The most versatile big game round in the .375 H&H Magnum. Various bullet weight and charges make it suitable for all sizes. It's easy and safe to load down. Trying to get too much from a cartridge is just the opposite.

Handloading is a requirement for any serious shooter.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Hobbies and Recreation > Guns and Hunting
Similar Threads
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

2005-2018, Advameg, Inc.

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top