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Old 10-23-2014, 06:05 AM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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Hi guys,
I'm new in the USA, so I ask for your suggestion.
When I was in Europe, I used to shot with a Fias Sabatti cal.223, bolt action, in the range 150-200 yrds.
Just for fun, rarely for small games.
I want to buy now such a rifle (I live in South Carolina)
What would you suggest ?
My must are the caliber 223 rem (I reload for better ammo), the twist (good for 200 yrds range), and the trigger (in my Sabatti I had a stecker trigger, I could decide the weight up to 1/2 pound).
Obviously, this is just fun, so I don't want to pay millions.....
Thanks in advance
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Old 10-23-2014, 06:20 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Remington 700 in .223, Sako in .223 and Tikka rifles in .223 are all really good rifles. just depends on how much you are willing to spend.
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Old 10-23-2014, 08:37 AM
 
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For a relatively inexpensive option that is in the same class as the Remington 700 (albeit with arguably better finishing, design and slightly better button-rifled barrels) you may want to consider the Howa options. They have some 20" heavy contours that make excellent shooters. It isn't unreasonable to expect 1/2 MOA accuracy with handloads and a stock barreled action.
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Old 10-23-2014, 09:00 AM
 
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These days there are many great options for a bolt gun. Since no one has yet mentioned it, have a look at the CZ 527 as well.
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Old 10-23-2014, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Chattanooga, TN
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All the mentioned guns are good options, and I'll agree that it depends on what you're willing to spend. Do you want to use iron sights or optics? If optics, I'll suggest a Savage Model 11 (general hunting setup with box magazine), Model 12 (precision target/varmint heavy barrel with box magazine) or Model 25 (single shot target rifle). Make sure you get one with the newer Accutrigger; it is adjustable, and it has a trigger safety that allows you to adjust the pull WAY down. Depending on options (wood or polymer stock, stainless or carbon barrel, no scope or scope included, etc.) prices will range from $400-800 for the Model 11 and $700-$1000 for the Model 12 and Model 25.

For a cheaper option you could also get a Savage Axis for less than $300.
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Old 10-23-2014, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Richmond
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I have two Savage bolt action rifles, one in 22 and the other in 223; both are accurate and shoot nicely. I put the 223 one together for about $600 and that included a nice Nikon scope rated for the 223 rifle.
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Old 10-23-2014, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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Thanks for tips.

My ideas:

1) CZ 527, nice rifle, walnut, twist 1:14, price ~ $700
2) TIKKA T3 Hunter, walnut, twist 1:12, trigger adjustable 2lb-4lb), price ~ $870
3) Remington 700, shyntetic stock, twist 1:12, X-Mark Pro trigger, price ~ $700
4) sako 85..... too expensive, ~$1800
5) savage 12, laminate, twist 1:9, accutrigger, price ~$1100

Maybe the remington 700 could be the better choice for me, reasonable price and the pro trigger too.
I like the savage 12 as well, but I prefer to reload with 50 grn bullet, so the twist 1:9 is not good (and I don't like the wood laminate stock...)
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Old 10-24-2014, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Chattanooga, TN
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Just curious, but what happened to the FIAS?

Also, are you planning on shooting for fun (competing against yourself) or competing against others? Benchrest, 3-position, or F-class? Are you going more for "looks" (well-blued barrel, nicely finished wood stock, jeweled bolt, etc) or for pure function?

If only shooting for fun, then any of your picks will work, and you'll probably be happy with any of them.

The CZ's twist might be a minus if you ever do decide to go with heavier/longer bullets, but they are supposed to be very good shooters for an off-the-shelf gun. The wood and bluing is usually gorgeous.

I'm not familiar with TIKKA guns.

The Remington 700 is considered the "standard" for off-the-shelf long-range rifles. The US Military's standard M24 sniper rifle is based off the Rem 700 action, and most police agencies use variations. It's also heavily customizable if you want to go into competition.

As for the Savage, you can also get solid wood or synthetic stocks in addition to the laminate, and they come in various twist rates. Their factory "Accustock" (synthetic) is supposedly on-par with moderate-level custom stocks. Check out the Savage Model 12 FCV with a 1:12 twist (note that you can usually get these for far less than MSRP).

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Old 10-24-2014, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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The FIAS ? When I moved from Europe (last september) I couldn't take to the USA, so I left by my brother in Italy.
Yes, I want just oto have fun, not competing against other.
I used to do, but now I'm quite "old" (52 yo, and I want just relax and enjoy.
I'm looking at the CZ 527, with the 21.9" barrel; seems really nice, with the walnut stock
But the trigger ? Is there the possibility to change the trigger, with something more "smooth", easy, around 1.5-2 pounds ?
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Old 10-24-2014, 05:17 PM
 
Location: NWA/SWMO
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On the cheap end, Savage makes a very accurate rifle for the dollar.
On the expensive end, well, so many choices...

The accutrigger from Savage may suite you. Try one.
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