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Old 11-08-2014, 06:54 PM
 
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I am looking to purchase a firearm for home defense for my daughter. Never shot beforehand, really has no knowledge on firearms/cleaning/etc. What would you all recommend for an easy to use and not very intimidating option? Just wants to have one just in case, but one that will be effective if she ever needs it.
I would go to a gun show and test hold as many as possible. As it is for her then it would need to fit her hand size and be of a weight she can heft. There is a no pressure environment at a gun show and multiple handling is understood.

My Mom who is 82 owns a snub nosed Double Action .38 Special revolver. You know the Barney Miller Special. To provide an idea.

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Old 11-08-2014, 10:12 PM
 
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I am looking to purchase a firearm for home defense for my daughter. Never shot beforehand, really has no knowledge on firearms/cleaning/etc. What would you all recommend for an easy to use and not very intimidating option? Just wants to have one just in case, but one that will be effective if she ever needs it.

Pistol: Glock-17
Rifle: M4 carbine or clone
Shotgun: 20 gauge pump

also get her some training too.
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Old 11-09-2014, 01:00 AM
 
Location: Spots Wyoming
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A self defense firearm is a personal thing. Its like trying to purchase a pair of gloves for somebody. You might buy really expensive gloves that look pretty but they won't fit as good as the gloves right next to them.

You need to get her some good training and with knowledge comes power. The power to rationally choose something that fits her hand and fits her personality and something that she will feel comfortable with. If she is comfortable, she will dedicate more time and effort and with that, she gets proficiency. Something she likes will go a lot further than something you like, or I like. But first, with training, comes knowledge. I could recommend something, but it would be what fits me, not her.

What I can recommend is a caliber. Have her try out a minimum of .40 cal. I sat in a conference that the speaker was a forensic doctor that investigated shootings and murders in Los Angeles. His sole purpose in life was investigating gun shot wounds. He said that if your desire was a 9mm, save some money and purchase a stick from the lumberyard and just stab the intruder. He said that most 9mm ****s did not break bones, but instead, would glance off. He said that a lot of 9mm shots killed, but only if it happened to miss a rib, or if it happened to cut an artery. BUT, a 10mm or .40, had the power to break the rib and keep on going. A 9mm might do the job, but a 10mm or .40cal WILL do the job.

I know I'll catch flack for saying that, but that's what the forensic doctor recommended. I carry a .40 cal and can safely verify that in fact, it does the job. Field tested, test sat.
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Old 11-09-2014, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Yep, sold my 9mm and kept my 40sw.
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Old 11-09-2014, 08:53 AM
 
Location: City of Central
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Glock 19 . If she has really small hands , a Glock 26 .
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Old 11-11-2014, 01:05 AM
 
Location: Poshawa, Ontario
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I am looking to purchase a firearm for home defense for my daughter. Never shot beforehand, really has no knowledge on firearms/cleaning/etc. What would you all recommend for an easy to use and not very intimidating option? Just wants to have one just in case, but one that will be effective if she ever needs it.
I'd recommend a Remington 870 12 gauge shotgun. If your daughter has a slight frame, opt for the youth model. The bonuses of the 870 is low maintenance, reliability and you don't have to be a marksman to defend your life with it. Loaded with 000 or 00 buck, there is very little that is going to get very far after being hit by it, and the intimidation factor alone will make a lot of perps think twice when they hear her racking a shell in the chamber. For home defense situations, the 18" barrel would provide quick target acquisition, wider shot spread and less chance of a perp managing to get a hand on it before she pulls the trigger.
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Old 11-11-2014, 03:48 AM
 
Location: NWA/SWMO
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I am looking to purchase a firearm for home defense for my daughter. Never shot beforehand, really has no knowledge on firearms/cleaning/etc. What would you all recommend for an easy to use and not very intimidating option? Just wants to have one just in case, but one that will be effective if she ever needs it.
AR-15 plus training.

-30 round capacity
-very controllable
-easily accepts a red-dot sight which removes part of the equation (rear-sight...front sight...target turns into "dot on target")
-Most 5.56 rounds will stay inside a structure, even moreso than 9mm, .40, .45, etc. ESPECIALLY if you opt for something like a 77gr TMK, etc. and that would be a GREAT choice considering she's not going to be going looking for someone or shooting through windshields etc, with this firearm. It will be "unobstructed targets only" pretty much.
-My aversion to the shotgun is: limited capacity, very time-consuming to reload (comparatively), and people in stressful situations short-stroke pump-action shotguns. A LOT! OFTEN! Follow-up shots are much slower, as well.

Training:

Because a firearm is just a tool. Would you let me perform heart surgery on you if I had all the right tools but had never used them before? Exactly.

Here is a comparison of me shooting my AR-15 to me shooting my Benelli M4. It is a VERY light kicking shotgun compared to most. Consider that I am 190# or so and try to keep in decent shape. Watch the muzzles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0Gboe_xMto
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQoPp-8In2E

Here is a friend of mine, around 155#, also lifts occasionally, but has a bit less training controlling a firearm, however, still grew up shooting from the time he could walk. Watch how it moves him around:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEZ3qofOMCc

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Old 11-11-2014, 03:51 AM
 
Location: NWA/SWMO
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A self defense firearm is a personal thing. Its like trying to purchase a pair of gloves for somebody. You might buy really expensive gloves that look pretty but they won't fit as good as the gloves right next to them.

You need to get her some good training and with knowledge comes power. The power to rationally choose something that fits her hand and fits her personality and something that she will feel comfortable with. If she is comfortable, she will dedicate more time and effort and with that, she gets proficiency. Something she likes will go a lot further than something you like, or I like. But first, with training, comes knowledge. I could recommend something, but it would be what fits me, not her.

What I can recommend is a caliber. Have her try out a minimum of .40 cal. I sat in a conference that the speaker was a forensic doctor that investigated shootings and murders in Los Angeles. His sole purpose in life was investigating gun shot wounds. He said that if your desire was a 9mm, save some money and purchase a stick from the lumberyard and just stab the intruder. He said that most 9mm ****s did not break bones, but instead, would glance off. He said that a lot of 9mm shots killed, but only if it happened to miss a rib, or if it happened to cut an artery. BUT, a 10mm or .40, had the power to break the rib and keep on going. A 9mm might do the job, but a 10mm or .40cal WILL do the job.

I know I'll catch flack for saying that, but that's what the forensic doctor recommended. I carry a .40 cal and can safely verify that in fact, it does the job. Field tested, test sat.
I strongly disagree, as does the US Military, FBI, and Dr. Roberts, who is the very tip of the spear in forensic terminal ballistics. 9mm works just fine.

(a 9mm will certainly penetrate a rib...seriously?)
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Old 11-11-2014, 05:39 AM
 
Location: WI
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OP, as noted often, training is key and i'd say (as a relative newb myself) practice time is equally as important to not only learn control but get a comfort level with whatever gun is chosen.
Perhaps one of your local ranges has a "ladies night" where they specialize in girl groups, sometimes a young shooter being around others who may have been in the same position at one point can help ease any tension as well.
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Old 11-11-2014, 05:53 AM
 
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Take her to a range where they rent revolvers and pistols and over the course of several visits let her try a number of different types. I'd start with medium frame revolvers with full-sized grips and .38 special ammo, then go to smaller revolvers. Then larger and smaller semi-autos. Let her decide what she's capable of handling.
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