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Old 12-28-2014, 11:14 PM
 
Location: NWA/SWMO
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Originally Posted by West Phx Native View Post
It is not "paperwork" it is a tax, you are purchasing a Tax Stamp, the politicians could not ban machine guns, short barrel shot guns and silencers, so they tried to tax them out of existence, $200 in the 30s was A LOT of money.
Yes, it is a tax. I consider it paperwork. It's $200 regardless...or about $3200 or so in 1934 money.
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Old 12-28-2014, 11:16 PM
 
Location: NWA/SWMO
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Strange response.

A silencer isn't silent, and doesn't make hunting easier. More than anything else, this is a piece of safety equipment.


An NFA firearms trust is a way to simplify the process of purchasing a legal NFA item, and can also be useful to work around certain local public servants who obstruct the process by refusing to sign the Federal paperwork. An NFA trust can also help with ensuring your family members can use and inherit regulated items.
Nfa items on a form 4 tax stamp transfer tax free on a form 5 once the owner is deceased to eligible kin.

The trust route allows multiple users without the owner present, also if you live with someone else (spouse etc) it is legal to leave the house with the items not secured away from your family, otherwise technically you have transferred said item illegally by the letter of the law. This is something many don't consider.
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Old 12-29-2014, 07:49 AM
 
Location: NWA/SWMO
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That is not hunting, what next just put your gun out with a trip wire and see what you got the next day? LOL The problem with texas is its full of Texans.
Is this a joke post, or what? If you're being serious, can you explain what in the world you mean by what you've posted?
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Old 12-29-2014, 07:35 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Is this a joke post, or what? If you're being serious, can you explain what in the world you mean by what you've posted?
It was a jibberish post. A silencer isn't a shooting aid. It's not going to make your weapon more accurate. It would help in keeping your neighbors happy.
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Old 12-29-2014, 07:37 PM
 
Location: NWA/SWMO
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It was a jibberish post. A silencer isn't a shooting aid. It's not going to make your weapon more accurate. It would help in keeping your neighbors happy.
Well, technically, some weapons do shoot better groups suppressed...but yeah. I found it odd.
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Old 12-29-2014, 08:58 PM
Status: "Gone hunting until December!" (set 22 days ago)
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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I always found the best groups were obtained mainly by... a good shooter.
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Old 12-30-2014, 06:46 AM
 
Location: New Braunfels, TX
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That is not hunting, what next just put your gun out with a trip wire and see what you got the next day? LOL The problem with texas is its full of Texans.
And we want to keep it that way.....so kindly stay away!

A silencer/suppressor does NOT work the way the movies portray (which is obviously your only experience with them). It reduces the sound - but the recoil reduction is something that few recognize. I've been around guns my entire life, but because there was no hunting application (legally), I hadn't messed with silencers until this year. As a result, I wasn't aware of the recoil reduction, which I found to be substantial, and an interesting side benefit, and was looking to share that aspect with others. As usual, the keyboard commando's of this site have jumped in.....should've known.
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Old 12-30-2014, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Chattanooga, TN
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Silencer? What's next? Hunting with drones from a mile high.
Clear indication of ignorance. A "silencer" (really a sound suppressor) is little different than a muffler on a car. Using one while hunting would serve to:
- Not spook more game than necessary; and
- Prevent unnecessary ear damage (most hunters do not wear ear protection so they can better hear game)

Many other countries ranging from Norway to New Zealand to even anti-gun United Kingdom allow suppressors for those reasons.

Also, good suppressors make good neighbors. A rifle range I belong to is immediately adjacent to a residential subdivision. If suppressors were cheaper and easier to obtain the neighbors would be much happier.

I honestly can't think of how hunting with a sound suppressor has any link with remote hunting from drones.

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An NFA firearms trust is a way to simplify the process of purchasing a legal NFA item, and can also be useful to work around certain local public servants who obstruct the process by refusing to sign the Federal paperwork. An NFA trust can also help with ensuring your family members can use and inherit regulated items.
Plus the advantage of multiple people being allowed to use the same silencer or group of silencers. Anyone whose name is on the trust may be in possession any NFA item listed with the trust.

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Old 12-30-2014, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Perhaps the first step in debunking Hollywood style myths about silencers should be to, well..... quit calling them "silencers"
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Old 12-31-2014, 12:06 AM
 
Location: NWA/SWMO
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Perhaps the first step in debunking Hollywood style myths about silencers should be to, well..... quit calling them "silencers"
Agreed. Sadly, the NFA paperwork does indeed call them "Silencers".

That said, they are anything but silent, and even if they were, a supersonic projectile is making around 150dB of flight noise.
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