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Old 01-29-2015, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Chattanooga, TN
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That's because you are only looking at it from your point of view. The cop that pulls you over doesn't know that you are a good guy with a gun. Bad guys with guns also get pulled over for traffic infactions. Common sense says you show the cop your carry permit along with your DL. It's not going to get you out of a ticket but it will keep you from possibly being arrested or worse a police beating.
^^^-- This. I keep informed about which states recognizes my TN carry permit, but I don't try to memorize every carry law in every state. I know the rules in TN, but when I'm out of state I simply try to follow the laws of the lowest common denominator of states in the south-east. This includes notifying police who are talking to me in their professional capacity. This has happened once: I was pulled over for speeding in Alabama. Because of my speed in a very poorly marked 43-mile-long construction zone there was no way I was getting out of the ticket, but I believe my politeness and carry notification convinced him to overlook a few other infractions (turns out, I had accidentally left my registration and proof of insurance at home when cleaning the vehicle).

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The government has no business knowing how many guns I own.
The end game of registration is confiscation. We have already seen that in some states.
This I agree with. I'm good with requiring proof of competency before carrying a loaded firearm in public, but there is no need for gun registration.
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Old 01-29-2015, 10:44 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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^^^-- This. I keep informed about which states recognizes my TN carry permit, but I don't try to memorize every carry law in every state. I know the rules in TN, but when I'm out of state I simply try to follow the laws of the lowest common denominator of states in the south-east. This includes notifying police who are talking to me in their professional capacity. This has happened once: I was pulled over for speeding in Alabama. Because of my speed in a very poorly marked 43-mile-long construction zone there was no way I was getting out of the ticket, but I believe my politeness and carry notification convinced him to overlook a few other infractions (turns out, I had accidentally left my registration and proof of insurance at home when cleaning the vehicle).

This I agree with. I'm good with requiring proof of competency before carrying a loaded firearm in public, but there is no need for gun registration.



I disagree with your last point. because if that were instituted, then plenty of cops would be without jobs.
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Old 01-29-2015, 11:01 AM
 
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You may be right but if the govt. wants your guns their gonna take em and there is nothing you're gonna do about it.
That's not entirely true. The government will get people's guns if they want them, but there would be plenty of people who would "do [something] about it".

Back on to the original question: I think Texas is given a lot more credit for the looseness of its gun laws than it deserves. Our gun laws are looser than many places, but there are plenty of states with much more lax gun laws than Texas. I think the perception of gun laws in Texas is the result of the media telling the world that Texas has almost no gun laws when that is patently not the case.
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Old 01-29-2015, 11:28 AM
 
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WA State has SHOCKINGLY good gun laws for such a progressive wasteland! Legal open carry. NO gun registration. Conceal Carry Permit only requires background check and payment for the permit. No testing.

The progs are trying their best to dilute and destroy the second amendment here in WA, but even the State Constitution clearly upholds the right to bear arms!


SECTION 24 RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS.

The right of the individual citizen tobear arms in defense of himself, or
the state, shall not be impaired, butnothing in this section
shall be construed as authorizingindividuals or corporations
to organize, maintain oremploy an armed body of men












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Old 01-29-2015, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Central Maine
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I am new to Maine and there is no registration of firearms, no permit to purchase but a permit to carry concealed. I believe open carry is allowed (Mainers chime in). No limits on magazines, type of firearms that I know of and it is a "must issue" state, I believe. I have had permits in WV and NC.
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Old 01-29-2015, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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That's not entirely true. The government will get people's guns if they want them, but there would be plenty of people who would "do [something] about it".

Back on to the original question: I think Texas is given a lot more credit for the looseness of its gun laws than it deserves. Our gun laws are looser than many places, but there are plenty of states with much more lax gun laws than Texas. I think the perception of gun laws in Texas is the result of the media telling the world that Texas has almost no gun laws when that is patently not the case.
I think you are correct, and a lot of non-Texans are shocked to find out their own states allow OC.

And the incorrect perceptions extend to a strong belief among many anti-gunners that the NRA wants EVERYBODY to have a gun.
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Old 01-29-2015, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Spots Wyoming
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Regulate, but not infringe. Many states (I'm looking at you, California) take it to the level of infringing. Take conceal carry, for example. Any state that is going to regulate conceal carry (I believe Wyoming and Montana do not) should be a "shall issue" state at minimum. "May issue" is an infringment because a state wage flunky decides if a citizen will or will not be allowed to exercise constitutional rights. California and New York's ludicrous levels of regulation are designed to make gun ownership not worth the hassle. "Regulating" is at best a legal loop hole, and at worst, unconstitutional. We are seeing more and more of these infringements masquarading as regulations being struck down by the Suprem Court.
Wyoming, no carry permit required for residents. You can carry concealed. Montana, on the other hand, tried to tailor their carry laws but did not give it state preemption meaning some towns or counties require a carry permit. Sucks because you never know where the requirement starts and stops unless your local.
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Old 01-29-2015, 08:31 PM
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Location: Fredericksburg, VA
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Wyoming, no carry permit required for residents. You can carry concealed. Montana, on the other hand, tried to tailor their carry laws but did not give it state preemption meaning some towns or counties require a carry permit. Sucks because you never know where the requirement starts and stops unless your local.
This reminds me of hunting regulations here in VA. The state has its set of laws and those form the overall framework. Then there are regional laws and seasons. Then there are county regulations. For example, there is no rifle hunting in a lot of counties, most of which have higher populations. It's important to get the annual guide and know what the regulations are. I think the state is likely pretty forgiving of an honest mistake, but it's better not to take that chance.
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Old 02-02-2015, 11:32 AM
 
Location: FLG/PHX/MKE
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No BS registration, no carry permit needed. Not too much in the way of gun laws out here compared to most states, which is fine with me. My office is in Illinois, and you should hear them talk about the new laws out there, as if someone is going to walk in the front door and start popping off rounds any minute.
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Old 02-02-2015, 12:29 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Regulate, but not infringe. Many states (I'm looking at you, California) take it to the level of infringing. Take conceal carry, for example. Any state that is going to regulate conceal carry (I believe Wyoming and Montana do not) should be a "shall issue" state at minimum. "May issue" is an infringment because a state wage flunky decides if a citizen will or will not be allowed to exercise constitutional rights. California and New York's ludicrous levels of regulation are designed to make gun ownership not worth the hassle. "Regulating" is at best a legal loop hole, and at worst, unconstitutional. We are seeing more and more of these infringements masquarading as regulations being struck down by the Suprem Court.



too bad that the government these days has no idea of what regulate means.
send a firearm to a gunsmith and ask them to regulate your firearm, and they should ask you for what bullet weight and what charge.
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