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View Poll Results: What's a better first gun for a beginner?
.22lr 20 64.52%
9mm 11 35.48%
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Old 01-31-2015, 01:28 PM
 
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If a full magazine of 124 grain into less than a U.S. Quarter at a distance of precisely 50' feet off hand rapid fire doesn't, I don't know what else does. It's my best shooting 9mm I own by far.

Keep in mind my bread and butter rests in the high end 1911 .45 ACP world too. My Glocks are very reliable. This Sig will take a hair off a nats ass at 25 yards with ease. It's never malfunctioned while doing so either. It's the official sidearm of the U.S. Navy SEALs.
Simple question: If Sig's, HK's, Beretta's, etc. are the "Kings," why don't they dominate the action pistol shooting sports?
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Old 01-31-2015, 02:19 PM
 
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How about something in between 9mm and 22lr? Such as 9mm short or 380 acp.

This one fires 380 acp (this one is a special edition; but most in shops are not).

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Old 01-31-2015, 05:55 PM
 
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Simple question: If Sig's, HK's, Beretta's, etc. are the "Kings," why don't they dominate the action pistol shooting sports?
Are you talking to the guy who owns practically the full Glock line?

It's simple, price and availability. You can take your best Glock ( mine is a G-34) and usually a Sig or Beretta will outshoot it in the right hands. Glocks have combat accuracy and reliability. They'll shoot full of mud, dirt, water and snow while being filthy dirty. They hold that title for those reasons. When it comes to straight accuracy Sigs usually dominate that category but you are going to have to pay for that. A typical Sig runs $850-$950 vs a Glock's $489-$525.

In short you can finishing cutting out what your Glock left in the target with your Sig quite often. I shoot my Glocks very very well. Better than most in most cases. I can shoot a good Sig better and most people can do the same.

I got all prematurely excited about the S&W M&P when it came out and ended up acquiring seven of them of various calibers and models. I'm down to three at the present time. A Glock they sure ain't after tens of thousands of rounds fired over the course of about 5 years. Do I like them, yeah I do. Sig and Glock do it better though, always have.


Just think we haven't even spoken about the CZ-75B yet. I own two of those as well. It's one of the worlds Military issue pistols since the 1970s and for good reason.
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Old 01-31-2015, 09:54 PM
 
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Are you talking to the guy who owns practically the full Glock line?

It's simple, price and availability. You can take your best Glock ( mine is a G-34) and usually a Sig or Beretta will outshoot it in the right hands. Glocks have combat accuracy and reliability. They'll shoot full of mud, dirt, water and snow while being filthy dirty. They hold that title for those reasons. When it comes to straight accuracy Sigs usually dominate that category but you are going to have to pay for that. A typical Sig runs $850-$950 vs a Glock's $489-$525.
ROTFLMAO! Price and availability are the reasons that Sig's and Beretta's don't dominate competitions? You've demonstrated clearly that you don't know much about the competitions, nor the people that shoot them.

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In short you can finishing cutting out what your Glock left in the target with your Sig quite often. I shoot my Glocks very very well. Better than most in most cases.
Really? Tell us all about how well you have done in GSSF, USPSA, IDPA, or any other action shooting sport.


Like I said in another thread - you have got to be trolling.
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Old 01-31-2015, 10:25 PM
 
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ROTFLMAO! Price and availability are the reasons that Sig's and Beretta's don't dominate competitions? You've demonstrated clearly that you don't know much about the competitions, nor the people that shoot them.



Really? Tell us all about how well you have done in GSSF, USPSA, IDPA, or any other action shooting sport.


Like I said in another thread - you have got to be trolling.
Naw, posting facts instead of a bunch of internet BS and "talk".
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Old 01-31-2015, 10:29 PM
 
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Naw, posting facts instead of a bunch of internet BS and "talk".
Just as I thought. . .
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Old 01-31-2015, 10:38 PM
 
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Just as I thought. . .
Wanna see some Glocks, Berettas and more Sigs now?


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Old 01-31-2015, 10:47 PM
 
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Wanna see some Glocks, Berettas and more Sigs now?
Another non sequitur. And there isn't a Glock, Beretta, or Sig in the two pix you just posted. Nice try.
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Old 01-31-2015, 10:50 PM
 
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Another non sequitur. And there isn't a Glock, Beretta, or Sig in the two pix you just posted. Nice try.
Those are my CZ-75Bs and my Browning Hi-Power I was speaking about earlier in the thread.

Even have three HK P7PSP squeeze cockers I can dig out of the safe for a photoshoot if need be too.

Trust me, I back up what I say.
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Old 01-31-2015, 10:59 PM
 
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Those are my CZ-75Bs and my Browning Hi-Power I was speaking about earlier in the thread.
Yeah, I know what they are. But you said we were going to see "some Glocks, Berettas and more Sigs."

Are you by chance off your meds? I'm not trying to be insulting, and I ask with all seriousness.
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