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Old 03-09-2015, 07:50 AM
 
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Sorry I did not see this earlier-

Yes- I do own a Diamond D holster for my Ruger Blackhawk .44mag and it is quite comfortable and very handy. It has a lot of adjustability so you can swap it from chest carry to side carry quite readily.
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Old 03-09-2015, 10:48 PM
 
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Hey I just had an idea. I know in some places unless you have a hunting license you can't carry a long gun for personal defense, you know against grizzly bears, two legged snakes, zombies, etc.

So, has anyone considered carrying a 'pistol' like an AK Draco? Gives you 40 rounds of 7.62.

Also what would be the effect of shooting a bear with a 10" AK vs a full length? In some places along with bear one might stumble into pot growers, stills or other wild animals like boar.
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Old 03-12-2015, 07:38 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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If you want the AK action just carry a short barreled psl/Romak. Some more weight but they make after market stuff for them. Pretty much the equivalent of a .308 and lots of 180-200 grain loads available.

I'd carry the Romak or Sar8 in bear stuff. A Good light carbine with lots of rounds. Even the 7400 would be a good choice. A lot of these guns are known as jammers but in 1.2 seconds it's the first shot that is going to make the outcome. My cuz carried a FULL auto ak as a bush pilot. He often said if it wasn't for the full auto part he would have carried a .45.70 instead.
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Old 03-12-2015, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Chattanooga, TN
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He often said if it wasn't for the full auto part he would have carried a .45.70 instead.
I keep coming back to this... If I had my preference, and money were no object, my first choice would be a lever-gun in .45-70. Lightweight, quick-handling, very powerful.

My second choice for general carry in bear country would be a semi-auto M1A SOCOM 16 or Scout in .308Win. Twice as powerful as the AK, same capacity and rate of fire, same or better ultra-reliability.
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Old 03-12-2015, 03:59 PM
 
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I keep coming back to this... If I had my preference, and money were no object, my first choice would be a lever-gun in .45-70. Lightweight, quick-handling, very powerful.

My second choice for general carry in bear country would be a semi-auto M1A SOCOM 16 or Scout in .308Win. Twice as powerful as the AK, same capacity and rate of fire, same or better ultra-reliability.
There are a number of shops doing custom take-down versions of these. Very convenient in a float plane.

This is one version:

Takedown Lever Actions
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Old 03-12-2015, 06:12 PM
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There are a number of shops doing custom take-down versions of these. Very convenient in a float plane.

This is one version:

Takedown Lever Actions
I really love my .45-70 guide gun. It's an older 'Marlin' model with nice wood and tight tolerances. Accurate enough, light enough and just fun to shoot. Stock recoil pad, no ported barrel- just a good plain Jane shooter.

I previously owned a Marlin 336 in .35 Rem, and that was also a great gun, and very accurate for a lever action. Should not have sold that one..
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Old 03-13-2015, 12:40 AM
 
Location: Approximately 50 miles from Missoula MT/38 yrs full time after 4 yrs part time
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......Hey Threerun, thanks for the 'link' shown above. ......good info.....great web site.

Agree re the .45/70............in 1996 I took a 7'3" Black Bear with a 405gr lead flat point out of a 1886 Winchester (replica) at approx 30 yards...............hit just above the left shoulder on a broadside shot........he never even took a step........just fell over.
I think that the 45/70 loaded with a Nosler Partition (300gr) would be adequate for a Grizzly within 50 yards.......thus allowing for precise bullet placement (in the spine or to break a shoulder). IMO a Premium Type Bullet would be required to get the penetration necessary to disable the bear and allow for one or more follow-up shots, if required...............Just my opinion.
I will admit however, I used a 300gr Nosler Partition (my handload) out of a .375 H&H to take my Brown Bear on Kodiak in November of 1991.
With the amount of money a Brown Bear hunt cost..............I wanted to be sure "I had-enough-gun"
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