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Old 01-29-2015, 09:07 PM
 
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If I carry this Norinco AK Hunter (Norinco modified a military AK-47 into a hunting rifle) into Alaska bear country, would it be adequate for both hunting and bear defense? Or it's no good for either?


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Old 01-29-2015, 09:12 PM
 
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Why would you want a underpowered round when you might need to use it on a bear ? a 7.62x39 might be decent on a battlefield, but for hunting I would not go smaller than a 30-06.
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Old 01-29-2015, 09:15 PM
 
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Works fine on gators and wild hogs.......maybe even whitetails.

On a bear especially a Grizzly nothing short of the biggest you got.
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Old 01-29-2015, 09:17 PM
 
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Why would you want a underpowered round when you might need to use it on a bear ? a 7.62x39 might be decent on a battlefield, but for hunting I would not go smaller than a 30-06.
I second this. The 7.62x39 is a proven man stopper, but it would probably not be very effective against even a medium size bear. A small bear, perhaps. But Alaska has some pretty big bears, and you want to go loaded for bear. (see what I did there? ) For brown bears, the .30-06 is where the discussion starts. If you're hunting kodiak bears, even the .30-06 isn't enough gun. The .338 Lapua seems to be popular among kodiak hunters. You may not need that much gun for some of the inland bears. Then again, when you're talking a 750-1000 apex predator, do you really want to risk it?
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Old 01-29-2015, 09:23 PM
 
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I second this. The 7.62x39 is a proven man stopper, but it would probably not be very effective against even a medium size bear. A small bear, perhaps. But Alaska has some pretty big bears, and you want to go loaded for bear. (see what I did there? ) For brown bears, the .30-06 is where the discussion starts. If you're hunting kodiak bears, even the .30-06 isn't enough gun. The .338 Lapua seems to be popular among kodiak hunters. You may not need that much gun for some of the inland bears. Then again, when you're talking a 750-1000 apex predator, do you really want to risk it?
Some use bows and even spears........

.308 Winchester 7.62x51mm is plenty with the right man behind the trigger.
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Old 01-29-2015, 09:29 PM
 
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Some use bows and even spears........

.308 Winchester 7.62x51mm is plenty with the right man behind the trigger.
No kodiak guide will take you seriously with a .308. That's for elk, black bear, etc. Shot placement is key, and I suppose a skilled shooter could drop any animal on the North American Continent with a .308. But remember the context: OP also said "Bear defense." A charging bear is not the same target as a serene bear you've stalked and have a clear shot at. A .308 or AK round is not going to do enough damage fast enough to save your skin in that scenario.
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Old 01-29-2015, 09:45 PM
 
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No kodiak guide will take you seriously with a .308. That's for elk, black bear, etc. Shot placement is key, and I suppose a skilled shooter could drop any animal on the North American Continent with a .308. But remember the context: OP also said "Bear defense." A charging bear is not the same target as a serene bear you've stalked and have a clear shot at. A .308 or AK round is not going to do enough damage fast enough to save your skin in that scenario.
September 27th, 2005 1,250 meters (1,367 yards) Staff Sgt. James Gilliland U.S. Army 2nd Battalion 69th Armored Regiment 3rd Infantry Division (Shadow Team) with a M24 caliber 7.62x51mm NATO.


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Old 01-29-2015, 09:51 PM
 
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He should take you seriously......you don't shop at Wal-Mart.


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Old 01-29-2015, 09:54 PM
 
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September 27th, 2005 1,250 meters (1,367 yards) Staff Sgt. James Gilliland U.S. Army 2nd Battalion 69th Armored Regiment 3rd Infantry Division (Shadow Team) with a M24 caliber 7.62x51mm NATO.


That's worth a Marine bragging about indeed!
Great shot. At a human target. We're talking about kodiak bears. Huge difference. Some of those suckers get to be north of 1500 pounds. A .308 or a 7.62x39 isn't going to get it done. A .308 for black bear is fine. Then again, a well placed shot from a .243 on a blackie is better than a poorly placed shot from a .308. I know we'll agree on that, at a minimum.
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Old 01-29-2015, 10:05 PM
 
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But Kodiak got a fuzzy head, a "well placed shot" might just shot some fur on the head.
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