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Old 02-02-2015, 04:12 AM
 
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I knew a permit holder in Florida who kept his gun under the seat, which I believe to be legal as long as the gun is concealed and the person has a permit, a rookie officer pulled him over and he gave the officer an attitude, so he ended up pulled out of the car and arrested and the rookie wrote that the gun was visible, maybe it was and maybe it wasn't, so that legal permit holder ended up spending tons of money on lawyers and lost his case, thus lost his permit, lost his gun and then had a record on top of that, so who won in the end.

As long as the gun in your car is concealed....zipper pouch, glove box, center console, etc..then you're fine. You can't have an open gun stuck under the seat, or sitting in your lap, on your hip, or laying on the passenger seat. It has to be concealed.

Your friend learned the law the hard way.....
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Old 02-02-2015, 05:45 AM
 
Location: NWA/SWMO
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As long as the gun in your car is concealed....zipper pouch, glove box, center console, etc..then you're fine. You can't have an open gun stuck under the seat, or sitting in your lap, on your hip, or laying on the passenger seat. It has to be concealed.

Your friend learned the law the hard way.....
It's all about what the officer wrote on that report...could have been zipped up in a case...officers have opposable thumbs...
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Old 02-02-2015, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Florida & Cebu, Philippines
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And on the flip side and to prove my point.
Watch the video at the link
Cop in Ohio Praises Armed Citizen for Carrying a Gun During Traffic Stop

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Jackson township ,canton Ohio ..I was speeding 15 over the limit. I advised Him I was carrying and he was nice enough to give me a warning and then compliment me for carrying ..nice cop!
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Old 02-02-2015, 10:19 AM
 
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I agree. You're right. However...

...want to die over a seatbelt stop?

The tombstone could read "BUT I WAS RIGHT, DAMMIT!"

Some people will take a bullet over a petty argument, the outcome of which won't affect them 15 minutes later either way, and you might well be one of them. I am not. YMMV.
That is called fear. If you really have that kind of fear, then maybe it is time for a change. Why would a police office shoot over a petty argument? You don't see the elephant in the room on this?
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Old 02-02-2015, 10:34 AM
 
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I don't need the police to praise me for carrying a gun. If I experience an interaction with them, I give and am entitled to respect and courtesy. I also follow lawful instructions and have a right to expect them to do the same. Nothing more, nothing less. They are law enforcement, not my parent, teacher, approval agent of behavior or anything like that. Unless I violate the law, they have no reason to interact with me other than to effect their duty. That doesn't include making me do anything because they might react and do something beyond what the laws provide for. They are not above me, they are equal, they just have a different job. While I recognize their position and authority, that does not diminish mine nor mean I am subservient to their personal whims.
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Old 02-02-2015, 03:00 PM
 
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HR in the Sheriff dept. said that Officer day would call me back, its been a few weeks and no call. Go figure.
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Old 02-02-2015, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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HR in the Sheriff dept. said that Officer day would call me back, its been a few weeks and no call. Go figure.
The cop committed a tort. It's time to start talking to lawyers who specialize in this. You may need to search a bit, but it's worth it.

You've been supporting him and others like him with your taxes. You pay for his breakfast. It's time that you were compensated.
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Old 02-02-2015, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Spots Wyoming
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As long as the gun in your car is concealed....zipper pouch, glove box, center console, etc..then you're fine. You can't have an open gun stuck under the seat, or sitting in your lap, on your hip, or laying on the passenger seat. It has to be concealed.

Your friend learned the law the hard way.....
Great advice, maybe in your state. Don't forget that the readers of this all adhere to different laws from different states.
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Old 02-03-2015, 03:55 AM
 
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Funny thing, the cop did not even ask if was carrying, only that I had a CCW. This raised a flag but I don't keep up with the laws that change every day so I was not sure that he was not correct. I was sure when I got my CCW and looked over the laws I was right but things change and I did not want to argue with him with out being sure.
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Old 02-03-2015, 07:48 AM
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Location: The Sand Hills of NC
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HR in the Sheriff dept. said that Officer day would call me back, its been a few weeks and no call. Go figure.

OK so you we're right and the cop was wrong but you got the ticket. You might want to think about that the next time.
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