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Old 08-31-2016, 06:57 PM
 
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As reported on Ammoland, a sudden ATF rule change promulgated entirely without warning in a newsletter has reclassified a critical component of smokeless powder as a “high explosive



The problem is that there are very strict rules governing the storage and transport of high explosives, and the ammunition supply chain is totally unprepared to suddenly comply with those rules.

Overhauling the ammunition supply chain to accommodate those rules will be a long and expensive process, which would be bad enough news for ammo prices. But the knockout blow is the fact that the industry was given no warning and zero grace period, so they’re just screwed, because as of yesterday they’re now in sudden violation of federal law



Manufacturers and importers of smokeless propellant have relied on ATF private letter rulings issued prior to 2016 stating that nitrocellulose wetted with water not less than 25 percent by mass is not subject to regulation under the federal explosives laws. Accordingly, the manufacturers have set up their logistics, storage and operations consistent with nitrocellulose not being regulated as an explosive. Manufacturers and importers may not have adequate storage facilities or record keeping systems to comply with the law. Licensed manufacturers also rely on private, unlicensed vendors to store wetted nitrocellulose in facilities that do not comply with storage requirements. A number of manufacturers also report an adverse impact on their contracts to supply smokeless propellant and finished rounds of ammunition to the Department of Defense



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Breaking: Latest ATF Surprise Could Drive Ammo Prices Through the Roof - AllOutdoor.com
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Old 08-31-2016, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Hard aground in the Sonoran Desert
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Not so fast, an update from the ATF today...

https://www.atf.gov/explosives/docs/...endum/download
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Old 08-31-2016, 08:46 PM
 
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Not so fast, an update from the ATF today...

https://www.atf.gov/explosives/docs/...endum/download
Wow! Fast turn around
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Old 08-31-2016, 10:08 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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Not so fast, an update from the ATF today...

https://www.atf.gov/explosives/docs/...endum/download

Perhaps someone tried to pull a fast one; and got caught and now has to back peddle.
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Old 09-01-2016, 02:58 AM
 
Location: When you take flak it means you are on target
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This tyrannical agency serves zero purpose. It needs to be disbanded. It is the cause of at least two massacres. It does nothing to protect the country.

Alcohol? We don't need to regulate alcohol beyond health concerns - give it to the Surgeon general. Same with tobacco.

Firearms should not be regulated, everything this agency does is in violation to the Constitution. There is no need for them. The FBI does the background checks.
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Old 09-01-2016, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, AK
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Not so fast, an update from the ATF today...

https://www.atf.gov/explosives/docs/...endum/download
All that says is it's on hold for now. The issue is not going away. After Hitlery wins in November, this will resurface.
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Old 09-01-2016, 02:05 PM
 
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All that says is it's on hold for now. The issue is not going away. After Hitlery wins in November, this will resurface.
Very likely.
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Old 09-01-2016, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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All that says is it's on hold for now. The issue is not going away. After Hitlery wins in November, this will resurface.

No doubt.

The Second Amendment says nothing about ammo. The bullets are the weak link.
The gov. can tax them and ban them.
In the future will we be seeing bullets treated the same as cigarettes?
I don't smoke but I know how high the taxes are on a box.
Will we be seeing ads that feature victims of bullets like they had ads with ex smokers?

If bullets cost more many people will be shooting less which means less trips to the gun club which means people will be questioning whether they should continue paying yearly dues which means gun clubs will lose members and lose money to keep their places open and there goes a fine tradition for many of target shooting teaching your kids to shoot and others to appreciate the past time and.... I better stop before some gun grabbing do gooder gets any ideas...
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Old 09-02-2016, 11:37 AM
 
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Simple solution
See your required powder, buy powder, see primers buy primers, insure good stock of bullets from X-Treme
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Old 09-02-2016, 11:57 AM
 
Location: On the road
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Having read the June letter mentioned in the OP, I disagree with the conclusions from Ammoland.
They are simply trying to stir up the natives, again.

And after reading the other comments, here, it seems to have worked.

Repeat after me: "They are not coming to take my guns. I must learn to relax."

Thank you. Carry on.
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