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Old 10-02-2018, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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I picked up a new rifle a couple weeks ago. There’s been a lot of hype over Brownings recent offering, and my Tikka T3 and me don’t really get along so well, so I thought “why not?”

Some people hate the Duratouch stock, but I love it. My Browning Silver auto loader has it and the positive grip is great for waterfowling. Plus the rifle has an adjustable trigger and a factory muzzle brake, glass bedded and free floated barrel- pretty impressive list of features for a factory rifle.

There are many, many reviews out there reporting ‘freakish accuracy’ out of the box. Hmm I’ll bite, lol.

I went through a detailed and painstaking barrel break in process, put on a new Leupold Vari-X 3i 4.5-14 50mm scope, boresighted and spent some quality time at the range. I grabbed 2 boxes of factory ammo (1 premium Barnes Fushion 140gr and the other plain-Jane Remington core-Lokd 150 gr.

I also loaded 139gr Hornaday BTSP’s and 140gr Sierra GameKing, using H1000 and IMR4350, working from starting loads and laddered up 3x by increments. Loads were measured to the ogive and held .040, .030 and .020 off the lands.

I cleaned the rifle between groups and fired a fouling shot before shooting for groups.

ALL rounds/combinations including factory were 1” or better. ALL OF THEM.

However two groups did really shine- Sierra GK and H1000 was the winner. .181”!!The fourth shot was my scope adjustment.

Wow this rig just flat shoots! Very mild recoil for a rifle under 7lbs. Looking forward to hunting with this rig!
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Old 10-02-2018, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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Sounds impressive, and glad you are happy with it. But, it is not for me.
First off, I have lots of other things I could spend my limited retirement income on.
Secondly, I have never been impressed with a "magnum" caliber. My old Remington 30-06 did the job just fine when I was hunting every year in my younger days. I still have it, even though I quit hunting many years ago. I take it to the range now and then just to see if I can still hit what I aim at.
thirdly, I don't need a rifle that shoots better than I can. With any kind of luck, I can get three shot groups in a three inch circle (on a good day). That isn't the rifle, that is ME!
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Old 10-02-2018, 10:23 AM
 
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Well I'm liquidating 3 rifles (including the Tikka) and 2 older scopes to fund this one. I have a rule that I agreed to with my wife- if one comes in the safe, 1 goes out.

I've been hunting with a .257AI- an old Mauser sporterized. My $300 rig- complete with dies and brass, lol.
I'm still working on that one, and as it stands I won't pull the trigger on a deer under 250-300 yards. I've not uncovered the right load/powder combo for that one. Last year I passed up several quality mulies that I simply could not get a sneak on. Ranged at 450-500 yards. I did manage a decent buck at 150yds..

So I'm hoping to get this puppy to perform at 500yards. It certainly looks promising, and I like the loading data for it. You can shoot .270 level performance all the way up to launching a 168gr slug at 3,000fps +.
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Old 10-02-2018, 07:48 PM
 
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One thing I will add- I also had an opportunity to personally compare the Burris Veracity 5-15 50mm first focal plane scope against the Leupold VX3i 4.5-14 50mm.

The Burris is gaining an almost cult like following among testers and owners, mainly due to the price point and FFP feature. Both scopes were within $30 of each other.

To my 51 year old eyes the Leupold was clearly better. The shop owner agreed. We tested them both outside, looking up an object on a hillside (no trees) about 200 and 300 yards away. The Burris was a much darker image, and the FPP reticle is darned near useless unless you are at 9x mag or higher. The Leupold was clear as a bell and the reticle clearly seen at 5:30pm- still ample light. Didn't matter the magnification.

I'd say scopes are one of those things that I really need to 'see' before I'll leap..
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Old 10-07-2018, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Louisiana
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My son has that rifle and he can't get it to shoot straight for anything . He's tried 5 or 6 different types of ammo and even put it in a Lead Sled . Multiple shooters , and the same results . Scatters rounds all over the paper . He's really frustrated .
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Old 10-07-2018, 08:26 AM
 
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If it’s not grouping from a lead sled, I’d first try a different properly mounted scope. My Tikka grouped horribly (read all over the damn place) and I had a used Weaver Grand Slam on it. I put my old trusty Leupold on it and voila- it grouped. Still not GREAT groups- best I got was 1.5” at 100yds..

If that doesn’t work call Browning ASAP. It could be a warranty issue.
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Old 10-07-2018, 12:20 PM
 
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What’s the difference between an “A-bolt” to a “X-bolt”?

Years ago a LGS was going all military surplus so it was discounting all its sports rifles. I picked up an A-bolt medallion in .308 Winchester for $300. Great little rifle.
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Old 10-07-2018, 04:25 PM
 
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What’s the difference between an “A-bolt” to a “X-bolt”?

Years ago a LGS was going all military surplus so it was discounting all its sports rifles. I picked up an A-bolt medallion in .308 Winchester for $300. Great little rifle.
That’s a great deal! The big difference is the x Bolt has 4 mounting points for each scope base vs 2 for the a bolt, and the x bolt has a removable composite magazine wheras the a bolt has a stacked hinged floorplate with spring.

There are some ergonomic differences as well. The a bolt is a very traditional style wheras the x bolt is a bit more European. Kinda like a Tikka or Sako.

The DIY Hunter - X-Bolt vs A-Bolt Comparison

Someone pm’d me to see the whole target, so top left is #1 going then going clockwise and center is last #5. Top left (group 1) is Barnes x factory 140gr. Shot 3 grouped well too- IMR 4350.
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Old 10-08-2018, 12:21 PM
 
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Thanks for the link, 3run. That was a detailed explanation!

Yup love that rifle. Great for outdoor and only weighs 6.5 lbm.
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Old 10-10-2018, 03:46 PM
 
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That’s a great deal! The big difference is the x Bolt has 4 mounting points for each scope base vs 2 for the a bolt, and the x bolt has a removable composite magazine wheras the a bolt has a stacked hinged floorplate with spring.

There are some ergonomic differences as well. The a bolt is a very traditional style wheras the x bolt is a bit more European. Kinda like a Tikka or Sako.

The DIY Hunter - X-Bolt vs A-Bolt Comparison

Someone pm’d me to see the whole target, so top left is #1 going then going clockwise and center is last #5. Top left (group 1) is Barnes x factory 140gr. Shot 3 grouped well too- IMR 4350.
What range? You used a lead sled? I don't like those, you need the recoil to go somewhere.
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