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Old 02-05-2019, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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My best friend Carl used to own the Walther PPK, he loved it, I had shot it before and not bad, for me a little thin, my hand was too large for it.


The only problem Carl ever indicated about the Walther PPK was that it was designed for full metal jacket ammo, and would jam on hollow point ammo. Now loading the Hornady Critical defense or Zombie Ammo their design allowed it to use the a hollow point but it also function like a full metal jacket ammo.


I found that the Sig Sauer P232 was larger in the grip and fit my hand better. It did not hurt that it was a tack driver as well.


I would suggest if you have the opportunity to either borrow or Rent and shoot a Walther PPK; before buying one. That way you could make sure you are able to shoot it properly.


I have bought guns that I liked in the store, only to find that I did not how they would shoot after buying it; and wound up trading it in for something else.
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Old 02-05-2019, 05:40 PM
 
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Aren't various Bersa models clones of Walthers?
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Old 02-05-2019, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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Aren't various Bersa models clones of Walthers?

I believe they are a clone's of the Walther or Sig Sauer P232, they all look to be kissing cousins.
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Old 02-06-2019, 08:08 AM
 
Location: USA
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The Makarov, whether it be from Russia, East Germany (the best), Bulgaria, or China is a MUCH better pistol than the Walther PP series. They shoot everything, are very accurate, and one of the most reliable pistols on the planet.
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Old 02-06-2019, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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I handled PPKs at our local range and remember something about them I didn’t care for, something dealing with slide stop/magazine. It seemed to shoot fine, to me. I ended up with a Glock 26 for something that size. Kimber makes some interesting small handguns.
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Old 02-10-2019, 12:06 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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Has anyone tried to pull the trigger on a PPK in double action mode? It feels like 25# ! Really stiff trigger.
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Old 02-11-2019, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Kirkland, WA (Metro Seattle)
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The Makarov, whether it be from Russia, East Germany (the best), Bulgaria, or China is a MUCH better pistol than the Walther PP series. They shoot everything, are very accurate, and one of the most reliable pistols on the planet.
So...a Markarov, fine pistols that they are, shoots 9x18mm ammo. Cheap enough in surplus, though I haven't looked in maybe ten years. Yes, I've shot them, way back when at the rental range when I was trying everything they and other stores had BEFORE making purchase(s). Nothing not to like, except...

It weighs 26oz, being all-steel. 6.36x3.68x1.16, the width being nice and thin.

So...moving from 1950 tech to 2017, I have a double stack HK VP9SK, designed as something of a competitor to the Glock 26 and 19. It's between both in size.

HK VP9SK Weighs 23oz, being polymer and steel. 6.61x4.57x1.31, so clearly a bit bigger than the Makarov on some dimensions. Width seems OK to me, though single stack are almost always narrower, yes.

I bought the VP9SK because carrying my all-steel 1911 Commander in my prefered location all day was less than ideal. Where the HK goes now, is. Weight matters for comfort carry.

Though I'm a 1911 Commander fan...those that are tuned to work correctly, 99.9% of the time....I must say they're doing wonders with 9mm ammo anymore and that HK doesn't poke, prod, or weigh down anything. Shoots great for me and no FTFs yet, about a thousand rounds in just under two years.

Point? No, I don't work for HK or Glock. I do submit, however, there are more-modern solutions to PPK/S and Markarovs that demonstrably throw more down range, at lighter weight (though not necessarily bulk, we see from above). If one cares for such stuff, there are gelatin tests on YouTube. According to those, we should all be carrying 357 Magnum I do believe, but no matter Modern 9x18mm ammo seems to do well. 9mm and etc., well, as we'd expect just that much better.

More to think about. SIG 232 was not my favorite gun ever to shoot, personally. I questioned the utility of it compared to the then-new G26 (in 1998) and promptly bought the latter, kept a number of years w/o complaint other than the abysmal trigger.
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Old 02-15-2019, 08:53 AM
 
Location: USA
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Point? No, I don't work for HK or Glock. I do submit, however, there are more-modern solutions to PPK/S and Markarovs that demonstrably throw more down range, at lighter weight (though not necessarily bulk, we see from above). If one cares for such stuff, there are gelatin tests on YouTube. According to those, we should all be carrying 357 Magnum I do believe, but no matter Modern 9x18mm ammo seems to do well. 9mm and etc., well, as we'd expect just that much better.
Agreed. However, some of us carry something in which we are comfortable, and familiar, and compared to more modern firearms perhaps somewhat obsolete. One of my favorite firearms is the HK P7 series which I still carry on occasion. Heavy, low capacity compared to double stack semi's, but accurate, and reliable.
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Old 02-15-2019, 11:16 AM
 
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I'm a Glock guy.

That said the PPK just doesn't feel right in my hand.

I have Rugers and S&Ws that feel better

MrsM's Sig feels fetter

Just my opinion
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Old 02-18-2019, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Eastern Washington
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This is kind of confusing me.

Is there a hotter .32 before you get to .380?

Sort of. The .32 ACP is the only round that I know of, that is loaded to a hotter spec in Europe than it is in the US. The old school gats like the PP/PPK need that hotter load to function properly. The newer pistols like the Beretta Tomcat can be damaged by the hotter CIP load. If you put most US spec ammo in a PP/PPK in .32 ACP caliber, while you may get several rounds off in a row without a stoppage, I seriously doubt you can shoot a whole box of ammo without some sort of stoppage. If you put the CIP ammo in the more lightly built newer guns, it will function just fine but will eventually damage the gun.



Now, in terms of the .380, AFIK, it's loaded to the same spec on both sides of the pond, so no worries about that.
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