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Old 07-08-2009, 05:42 PM
 
Location: New York City
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You talk about gods way...wit hall the problems in the world "god" is really sitting back worrying about how you wear your hair...lmao
You have a serious problem that is way beyond hair. So what I am going to do is put an end to this BS right now and be the adult that I am. Therefore you are on the IGNORE list from here on!
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Old 07-08-2009, 05:50 PM
 
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My belief is the enthusiasm will come and go. In fact, I've lived long enough to observe this. Even though I wear braided extensions, I consider myself natural in that I am no longer perming my hair. I permed my hair in the first place mainly because I thought it was pretty and I wanted to have flowing locks and also i had no idea what to do with my natural hair and couldn't find a salon to hook me up. Braided extensions is my compromise for now. I got tired of perming thin shoulder length hair that was a pale imitation of what people who perm their hair really want. One day I woke up to the realization that permed black hair (unless you got it like Oprah) looks as bad as dreadlocks on white folk. LOL. IMHO, black people look better with black people hair.

Unfortunately, as long as the white beauty standard reigns and most of the huge black female media stars are perming, natural hair will not be mainstream.
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Old 07-08-2009, 06:02 PM
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Location: Atlanta, Ga
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You have a serious problem that is way beyond hair. So what I am going to do is put an end to this BS right now and be the adult that I am. Therefore you are on the IGNORE list from here on!
But yet you keep responding but not addressing anything......to ignore is to not respond.....I guess you have a problem with getting the last word then. An adult can agree to disagree but a child that isnt getting their point across pouts and makes a stink about things. Like I stated before Black is beautiful in any way, shape, or form you choose to express it. The OP was about natural hair being more mainstream.....it wont be more mainstream because this isnt the 1960-70s. America is a melting pot and we as Americans (most of us anyway)have taking a liking to other cultures and ways. You see someone with a style or trend that you like and you try it for yourself.....which is why you have white women getting tans and botox. It isnt only white women that have straight hair....Native Americans and Hispanics have straight hair as well...and how many of us AA are mixed with some type of NA or other ethnicity? Pretty much all of us. Please take Dominicans for instance.....some of them have the most course hair you would ever see and others have silky straight them getting wash and sets are they trying to be white as well? Are they Brainwashed too? God doesnt care about your hair...Im sorry he doesnt...he didnt invent the comb, brush grease or the perm. If you go to africa you wont see not one afro maybe some locks but not neccessarily. Dreads have been around since Jesus there is nothing new or original about them maybe the are a little more maintained now here in America but thats all.
Michael Jackson did have a problem there is no denying that. But you would too in his shoes..he has been famous since he was 7. May he rest in peace. But he doesnt have anything to do either.
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Old 07-08-2009, 06:07 PM
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Location: Atlanta, Ga
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My belief is the enthusiasm will come and go. In fact, I've lived long enough to observe this. Even though I wear braided extensions, I consider myself natural in that I am no longer perming my hair. I permed my hair in the first place mainly because I thought it was pretty and I wanted to have flowing locks and also i had no idea what to do with my natural hair and couldn't find a salon to hook me up. Braided extensions is my compromise for now. I got tired of perming thin shoulder length hair that was a pale imitation of what people who perm their hair really want. One day I woke up to the realization that permed black hair (unless you got it like Oprah) looks as bad as dreadlocks on white folk. LOL. IMHO, black people look better with black people hair.

Unfortunately, as long as the white beauty standard reigns and most of the huge black female media stars are perming, natural hair will not be mainstream.
What is black ppl hair though? I mean really Africans may braid you up but that is hair from the Korean beauty supply store....not a knock on you because I wear braids as well form time to time but I mean come on isnt that like saying Bently's are ugly but you drive a Chrystler 300(baby bently)?
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Old 07-08-2009, 06:13 PM
 
Location: New York City
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My belief is the enthusiasm will come and go. In fact, I've lived long enough to observe this. Even though I wear braided extensions, I consider myself natural in that I am no longer perming my hair. I permed my hair in the first place mainly because I thought it was pretty and I wanted to have flowing locks and also i had no idea what to do with my natural hair and couldn't find a salon to hook me up. Braided extensions is my compromise for now. I got tired of perming thin shoulder length hair that was a pale imitation of what people who perm their hair really want. One day I woke up to the realization that permed black hair (unless you got it like Oprah) looks as bad as dreadlocks on white folk. LOL. IMHO, black people look better with black people hair.

Unfortunately, as long as the white beauty standard reigns and most of the huge black female media stars are perming, natural hair will not be mainstream.
LOL My guess is that the only way we are going to rid ourselves of the white beauty standard is to stop playing by their rules. You may be right though......it may be too late for this generation but who knows maybe if we begin with our daughters.......then they will grow up and continue with their daughters.......before you know it natural may become the norm. Like you said not being able to find a salon that can hook up natural hair is another thing that will discourage women from considering going natural........maybe that will change in the future too and we will have more natural hairstylists. Hey just the fact that some of us are starting to think about things differently is a start right.

Right now where I live there are only 2 locticians within 100 miles that are both certified to install and maintain Sisterlocks.

Thanks for sharing.
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Old 07-08-2009, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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What caused me to go natural was not just the damage that the perms cause on the surface but also the damage that happens underneath the skin that we may not notice and also who knows what kind of health problems the chemicals will cause down the road. The other reason I went natural was something just changed inside of me and my outlook on life. A year ago I made a conscious decision to start embracing the person that God made me to be. I finally understood that if God wanted me to have straight hair he would have created me that way. Not to knock anyone who decides that perming is for them..........I just decided to stop fighting to be something that I was never created to be. Now when I look back at the years of perming and think about what was going through my mind I understand that I was just doing it because everyone else is doing it and that seemed to be the normal thing to do.

As far as the commitment to go natural..........I can honestly say that in my opinion natural is so much better. There is more maintenance trying to keep permed hair healthy then there is trying to maintain natural hair. Natural hair just needs to be washed, conditioned and a light moisterizer and it is ready. For the first time in my life I can get in the shower wash my hair, then get out and simply let my hair air dry. No longer any need for the extra steps of blow drying, flat ironing, hot curling or any of the other stuff.

Hopefully by the time you finish school and begin looking for a natural hairstylist you will have plenty of options to choose from.
Yeah, I read about the damage down the line and the damage under the scalp, trust me. I have read the literature and I even have books at home about natural hair and taking care of African-American hair.

There isn't a single person in my family who is natural and I don't have any friends I see on a normal basis that are natural. Perms have always been a part of my life, unfortunately. It would have been nice if I would have had a say in whether or not I wanted perms or not. I know Chris Rock put out a documentary about "Good Hair."

I definitely agree permed hair has more maintenance to it, to a certain degree. I think in the beginning of going natural though, I'll need a committed hair stylist to do my natural hair. I plan on trying to seek out people who have natural hair and see who they go to and everything.
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Old 07-08-2009, 07:33 PM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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Glad that I stumbled on this thread.

I decided to go natural about a year or so ago. I was so tired of being a slave to the salon and tired of the damage that happened to my scalp no matter who was doing my hair. I decided to transition using the Crown & Glory method (using individual braids for growth) and haven't looked back.

One of the things that I hate most are the "myths" surrounding natural afro texture hair. Especially the following

1) There are only limited looks and styles that we can achieve with natural hair
2) Natural afro textured hair is "unprofessional"
3) Afro texture hair does not grow long...this myth really irks me because its just not true
4) Women who have decided to go natural are "militant" activist types
5) Natural afro texture hair isn't attractive...also really irks me

I am not slamming anyone who relaxes and likes the look but I think that there are a lot of Black women who don't even know what their natural hair looks like (or are afraid to even venture that far)

When I made that decision to transition, I fell in love with the "real" texture of my hair and I embrace my journey to growing a crowning glory of long, natural afro textured hair. I am learning how to truly take care and nurture my hair into fantastic health.
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Old 07-08-2009, 07:42 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Where did you find this info?
I consider myself pretty computer savvy and I went to the Sisterlocks website and didn't see anything where you find out how to find a certified loctician.
I have Sisterlocks www.sisterlocks.com and they list all of the certified locticians on their website. You can go on to the site and look under your city to find a loctician.

When you go on to the site scroll down to the middle of the page.....there you will see a link for the list of certified consultants. Larger cities usually have a lot of locticians to choose from.......good luck.
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Old 07-08-2009, 07:51 PM
 
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Yeah, I read about the damage down the line and the damage under the scalp, trust me. I have read the literature and I even have books at home about natural hair and taking care of African-American hair.

There isn't a single person in my family who is natural and I don't have any friends I see on a normal basis that are natural. Perms have always been a part of my life, unfortunately. It would have been nice if I would have had a say in whether or not I wanted perms or not. I know Chris Rock put out a documentary about "Good Hair."

I definitely agree permed hair has more maintenance to it, to a certain degree. I think in the beginning of going natural though, I'll need a committed hair stylist to do my natural hair. I plan on trying to seek out people who have natural hair and see who they go to and everything.

Very true, perms have been apart of most of our lives since we were little. I was around 15 years old when I got my first perm.........I truly regret it and wish that I would have been thinking the way I do now. Like you said nobody in the family was natural so had no one that I could talk to about it. I definitely have to check out the Chris Rock documentary about good hair........I know it is comical!

Once you decide to go natural and find a loctician in your city to go to from there it should be pretty easy......very similar to going to a normal salon and having your hair done. Sisterlocks also gives classes and teaches women how to re-tighten their own locks.....I plan on taking the class soon. Another benefit that I have noticed about having natural hair is the experience of working with a loctician.........when the loctician makes an appointment to do my hair......that appointment time is for me and me only..........I never have to worry about arriving and waiting for her to finish someone elses hair. She reserves a 3 hour time slot to do my hair and it is just me and her there. Unlike going to a regular hair salon......always have to waste time waiting for them to finish other peoples hair and they never respect peoples appointment time.
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Old 07-08-2009, 08:09 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Glad that I stumbled on this thread.

I decided to go natural about a year or so ago. I was so tired of being a slave to the salon and tired of the damage that happened to my scalp no matter who was doing my hair. I decided to transition using the Crown & Glory method (using individual braids for growth) and haven't looked back.

One of the things that I hate most are the "myths" surrounding natural afro texture hair. Especially the following

1) There are only limited looks and styles that we can achieve with natural hair
2) Natural afro textured hair is "unprofessional"
3) Afro texture hair does not grow long...this myth really irks me because its just not true
4) Women who have decided to go natural are "militant" activist types
5) Natural afro texture hair isn't attractive...also really irks me

I am not slamming anyone who relaxes and likes the look but I think that there are a lot of Black women who don't even know what their natural hair looks like (or are afraid to even venture that far)

When I made that decision to transition, I fell in love with the "real" texture of my hair and I embrace my journey to growing a crowning glory of long, natural afro textured hair. I am learning how to truly take care and nurture my hair into fantastic health.
You made some excellent points....glad you said it and not me!! We are used to caring for permed hair........as you said many of us have no idea what our natural hair even looks like much less how to care for it. I have seen some stuff underneath some weaves during my time at the salons.........let me tell you when they cut the tracks off some of those heads it is a hot mess up underneath those tracks!!

The crazy thing about it is that we are not fooling anyone. We are not achieving the long length that we want to achieve.....usually all we do is spend years on this up and down roller coaster ride between growing hair......breakage.....cutting hair because of breakage.....then waiting for it to all grow back again.......for the same thing to happen all over again!

For some reason many just decide to be stubborn and keep riding the roller coaster instead of stopping the ride and getting off!! I have always been a believer that if something does not work right.....then you stop, take a look at it..........then you try something different. Like you said it is all about fear......many are scared of the natural because they don't know how to care for it........scared because there are some cruel sick people in this world.......scared because after so many years of perming they have no idea how their hair is going to behave. I understand these fears.....I had them too at first.........then I thought to myself "why am I afraid of something that is growing from my own head"? There are definitely a lot of myths surrounding having natural hair.....maybe when we get pass the myths and begin to see more women with healthy, beautiful, long flowing natural hair then the fair will go away for the other women who are afraid to take a chance.

Keep looking forward......you will be rewarded for it in the end with long healthy hair.
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