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Old 04-02-2014, 11:14 AM
 
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Davidep2 and tidewaterkayaker thank you for your posts.

We did check out Bay Creek Reality, problem is we are bringing out rescue puppy with us and many places do not want to deal with dogs.

The cost issue about the CBBT is disturbing. Somewhere I read Cape Charles residents could buy a yearly pass. We have EZ pass in our area (Western, PA) We rarely use the toll roads except for vacations (I could always pick one up at a local store- I understand there is reciprocity between VA and PA.)

My girlfriend loves the little towns of Maine, last year we went to Wilmington NC and spent some time in Southport- she loved that also, but too far from our relatives.

She loves the little shops within walking range small towns have, I’m happy with a coffee shop and a Home Depot/ Lowes. (and of course the beach!)

Her issue is traffic, she is o.k. driving the Beltway and I 64. but dealing with multiple turning lanes and side access roads ( example around Hilltop Shopping Center) causes her concern.

We both love the water and if this were 30 years ago we would probably have bought a home at Chicks Beach to retire to. So we are trying to find something affordable we could rehab.

A concern for us would be the quality of the school system. We have a grandkid, who with his mom may move also. I saw the low ratings of the school district but understand there is a Christian school in Cape Charles.

Again, all of this is a work in progress and I thank you both (and costalbum) for taking the time to reply. I’m all ears if you have anything to add.

Tony
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Old 06-12-2014, 06:24 PM
 
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Talking Cape Charles Summer 2014

You should visit August 1-17 Harbor for the Arts Festival, when the town comes alive with all sorts of public activities, arts and cultural events, experimental film workshops, ballet, street dancing, bands, etc. The shows presented in the Palace Theater rival those of the big metro cities and for a mere $12 ticket fee for a first-class dance company from Italy (Ivir Danza last year). The film workshop is attended by international students who present their graduation project of short films at the end of the Harbor for the Arts Festival in the Palace Theater. For a small town like Cape Charles, art and culture is alive and well. I am not kidding or hyping.

You can find rentals via realtors like Blue Heron -- just google Cape Charles vacation rentals -- or watch for the Classifieds in the blog The Wave Cape Charles Wave, where you can read about events, news and town gossip, politics, ads on shops and restaurants, etc. etc. better than you will find in the Town's webpage, which is rather paltry -- Cape Charles, VA - Official Website -- the roster of town officials has not even been updated (shame). Just remember to take any opinions that you read in The Wave with a grain of Chesapeake sea salt because they are known to be partisan. Yeah, town politics can be hilarious -- just like DC. The Town just had a recent mayoral election and we have a new town mayor, George Proto, who we believe is a progressive thinking manager and will help bring more advancement to the town.

You can still buy property in town for less than 200K. Shhh . . don't advertise that too much. Prices have gone down because of the current economic conditions. But CC amenities and businesses are growing. We have several fine restaurants -- Aqua in Bay Creek (first class and high end quality), Kelly's Pub (great food and always hopping), Shanty (great seafood restaurant right by the water -- very crowded in the summer), and cafes on Mason Ave. The town is increasingly getting popular that residents and visitors are clamoring for more restaurants to open -- that's a good sign. Another seafood place next to the Shanty is in the works.

The new owners of Aqua recently converted the Marina Shops into a wedding reception venue. It has become a popular destination for weddings and receptions. Sunset, beach and weddings -- what could be more romantic.

Steve Jobs was right: if you build it, they will come.

A town that has a shop dedicated to olive oils, salts and coffees says quite a lot about the level of sophistication this town has. There's also a wine purveyor/gourmet shop in town, the kind you'd find down some neighborhood street in Manhattan. Soon we'll have the much anticipated cafe life on Mason Ave., the main business street. There's al fresco dining already in some establishments.

There are investors planning to build more apartment rentals -- which are lacking as of now -- another good sign. The new Mayor will see to that.

The downside is you have to cross the bridge for heavy duty shopping, first run movies, choice of hospitals and medical facilities (which are plenty). We have a Medical Center staffed with primary doctors, so you can stay in town for that and go for the specialists in Va Beach or Norfolk.

Va Beach and Norfolk is a 45 min. to 1 hour drive away where you will find the museums, including the well-known Chrysler Museum, and the Opera and other large event venues. If you don't want to cross the bridge, head north towards Maryland -- to Salisbury and beyond. Within 30 minutes drive from CC depending on which place you're visiting along US 13, there's Quail Cove Farm (if you crave organics and such stuff -- I love this store), Nottingham Seafood, various farm and seafood stands. Food Lion is the closest grocery store to CC, next to an ABC store (where you can get hard booze) and a well-stocked Dollar General -- a very short drive from town, which can satisfy most of your everyday needs. There's bus service in town that ply certain routes along US 13 at 50 cents fare. It runs on a fixed schedule and you just have to know when to be out to get on board. I shop every 10 days in Va Beach where you can find every conceivable shop or service that you need and when I'm in the mood for Wholefoods and Trader Joe's and Grand International Market. Besides, there's Amazon for everything else.

You can meditate at the beach and at the fishing pier no matter what time of night and you can walk back home and arrive alive. There are still people here who don't lock doors, but I do, because I'm an ex-paranoid New Yorker. People travel around town in golf carts and bikes. If you ask me, they should just walk. I don't own a car by choice, but when I need it, I borrow my sister's car and if I really need a rental, I can get Enterprise to pick me up. I'm trying to be environmentally conscious.http://pics3.city-data.com/forum/ima...ons/icon10.gif

Don't expect urban amenities and metro-type living. It's a laid back town but it has its charms and sophistication. I'm trying to save some down payment money so I can buy a home myself while the prices are still low. This town was featured recently in an HGTV show for "the best affordable beach towns in the U.S." And it is -- still -- affordable.

I'm a resident (renting for now) and not a realtor and not related to the Mayor. I have a sister who owns a home in Bay Creek, a brother who will build soon. I gotta find my own place before climate change wipes out all the coastal towns of America! Don't worry, you'll be gone by then.
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Old 06-22-2014, 07:06 PM
 
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hazfora,

Thank you for the wonderfully detailed reply.

We found a rental and will arrive Saturday Aug 16.

We are excited about this and ready for vacation.

We have vacationed in Virginia Beach for years, we love Seashore State Park, now called 1st Landing State Park, just above that is Chicks Beach and the bridge tunnel.

The arts and cultural events sound exciting,
In Pittsburgh we are very fortuniate and blessed with many venues, good to hear that is true in Cape Charles.

Someone described Cape Charles as Virginia's answer to Mayberry,

We both like the small town aspect, we grew up in small towns and like the ability to know your neighbor.

Quiet is good, we've both had enough excitement for hold us for a while. Since we love to walk and ride bikes we could even give up one car.

We are also watching the realty sites to get a feel for the housing market.

Questions: does the bus service run from Cape Charles to Virginia Beach or it it just local.

And it is true residents can buy a yearly pass for the CBBT.

Again, many thanks. !

Tony.
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Old 06-22-2014, 07:55 PM
 
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hazfora,

Thank you for the wonderfully detailed reply.

We found a rental and will arrive Saturday Aug 16.

We are excited about this and ready for vacation.

We have vacationed in Virginia Beach for years, we love Seashore State Park, now called 1st Landing State Park, just above that is Chicks Beach and the bridge tunnel.

The arts and cultural events sound exciting,
In Pittsburgh we are very fortuniate and blessed with many venues, good to hear that is true in Cape Charles.

Someone described Cape Charles as Virginia's answer to Mayberry,

We both like the small town aspect, we grew up in small towns and like the ability to know your neighbor.

Quiet is good, we've both had enough excitement for hold us for a while. Since we love to walk and ride bikes we could even give up one car.

We are also watching the realty sites to get a feel for the housing market.

Questions: does the bus service run from Cape Charles to Virginia Beach or it it just local.

And it is true residents can buy a yearly pass for the CBBT.

Again, many thanks. !

Tony.
You can find info on the CBBT here Chesapeake Bay Bridge-Tunnel -- ABOUT E-ZPASS.

Glad you're visiting. The only thing I really don't like about living here is the absence of a regular bus route to and from Virginia Beach because I don't intend to own a car. I may have to break that vow in the not too distant future just to have more independence and freedom. The bus that services Cape Charles only run the local route. View this link and look for Star Transit: Virginia Department of Rail and Public Transportation - www.drpt.virginia.gov

It's adequate if you want to shop at Food Lion, which is a 7 minute drive from the Historic District. The link will show the specific stops all along Route 13. Bear in mind that there are only small strip malls on Route 13 and there's the big box Walmart, which is a specific bus stop serviced by Star Transit. If you've been car-dependent all your life and have not taken public transport in cities (metro or subway, bus, taxis), it's a culture shock not to have those. But I'm retired and don't have to go to work each day, so that doesn't bother me. You would probably only need to go to Va Beach or Norfolk every 10 days to either go shopping or attend activities or special events. The rest of the time, you'll be enjoying the beach, fishing, Main Street, water activities, hiking and biking, golfing, volunteering (plenty of those). There are quite a few resident artists and writers, and most important, there are buyers. Best way to meet people is to sign up for gym at Impact Fitness, the only one in town. Sign up for a tour of Baycreek so you can inspect the development closely, including the newly constructed Beach Club. View link: Bay Creek Cape Charles, Virginia | Luxury Waterfront Homes, Eastern Shore Real Estate, Golf, Marina

The town is slowly having one of everything :-) and it's time for serious competition. If you're entrepreneurial, there's opportunity for you to find your niche.
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Old 07-02-2014, 09:29 AM
 
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Hazfora,

Didn't know there was a bus service, cool.
I grew up riding something called a 'Streetcar" so not a stranger to public transportation.

We kid around saying the only time we get by ourselves is when we go to big box for groceries. Other than Food Lion, looks like a 2 hour bus trip to walmart. The good news is the fare looks like 50 cents. Cheaper than gas. (maybe pack a box lunch for the ride) Or the CBBT over to Great Neck in VB.

The sad part is being confined to " enjoying the beach, fishing, Main Street, water activities, hiking and biking, golfing, volunteering" CAN"T WAIT !!!

We're both in the YMCA here so fitness is important, could not find a web site for Impact Fitness so we'll check that out when we arrive. Also will look at Baycreek.

We are not rich enough to retire totally, so finding a need and starting a small business would be neat!


Again , thanks for the wonderful detail.

Tony.
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Old 08-18-2014, 08:48 AM
 
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Well,

We are here !
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Old 08-18-2014, 02:21 PM
 
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Well,

We are here !
Tony, so you made it to Cape Charles. I hope you took advantage of the free public events during the Harbor for the Arts Festival -- the Bridgman/Packer show was truly outstanding and the free music all around town, the experimental film premier, etc. etc. Everyday was performance day. They are first class entertainment that you would normally found in big cities like New York or Los Angeles, and all are free to the public. All you need is attend.

Try to visit Wallops Island -- easy to get to on Route 13 North. It's the NASA facility that launches space rockets, etc. The visitor center is worth a visit. We plan to view the next major rocket launch -- the Antares -- sometime in mid-October, exact date to be determined closer to the date.

Did you explore Fisherman Island? There are surprising sights there. Did you sample the restaurants in town? The Shanty? Brown Dog Ice Cream? Aqua Restaurant? (where they had free live jazz -- it was outstanding). Did you attend the Caribbean dance party in the Yacht Center? The Bridgman/Packer dance duo performed there again -- a premier performance of their newest work, which will show again in NYC. It was performed inside a Uhaul truck. That is one that you shouldn't have missed. Truly outstanding.

Did you go to the Stage Door Gallery next to the Palace Theater? Fabulous works by local artists and art you can afford to own. Did you spend a day at the beach? Did you have breakfast at the Coach Tavern in the Bay Creek golf course grounds? I hope you did all these. Did you watch the sunset at the town pier? Did you cross the Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel at dawn to experience the most beautiful sunrise you've ever seen? That's what makes this town a rare find.
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Old 09-26-2014, 08:59 AM
 
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Hi Hazfora,
Sorry We did not check the email, we went in August as you know. There are so many houses in disrepair, and there are many empty lots where homes stood.We did like the area however and went back this week to view some homes and empty lots. For us the homes seemed expensive and the ones that were not would need extensive rework. Maybe we could find land and do a modular, although we understand the building code may not allow for that construction.
On a positive note we enjoyed the beauty, liked the ability to walk around, and the people were great!
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Old 11-17-2015, 08:16 PM
 
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Well we think we have decided on Cape Charles the town. We like the beach, like the people,think we could handle 1 or 2 day trips a month to VB or Norfolk for entertainment,etc.

Hopefully we can find a reasonable home in the town. ( We could not afford Bay Creek or Kings Creek)

One of our questions is how much does it REALLY cost to live there.

We have heard the town charges homeowners $100 a month plus regular property taxes. We read in the Cape Charles Wave residents need to pay around $100 a month for water. Have no idea what electric or phone/internet would be.

Anyone on the forum who knows what the average costs are?

Thanks Again.

Tony!
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Old 11-17-2015, 10:37 PM
 
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Hi, Tony. I'm glad you liked Cape Charles. The town keeps improving and summers are really fun with lots of tourists. I moved to Richmond last year because my landlord sold my apartment, which I loved. My sister lives in Baycreek and has lived there for over 5 years since moving from Arlington, VA. But guess what, I'm moving back to Cape Charles sometime next year. My two sisters and I have decided to build a house in town and share the house, an aging-in-place residence. We hope to begin construction in early Spring.

I'm sure you'll find a home in town that's reasonably priced, but don't wait too long. I don't know about property taxes, since I've never owned a home and have always been a renter, but I'm sure you can find that out by calling the Town Council -- Town Manager - Cape Charles, VA. Don't rely on hearsay. As for water, yes there's a minimum charge per month -- last I paid was $108 thereabouts, whether I consumed it or not. My sister, who lives with her husband and 2 cats and has a large garden pays the same amount -- not fair, huh? That's because the Town had upgraded the sewer system and the money had to come from somewhere. That's my only beef about the town. Electric and cable/internet cost is probably the same as you would pay elsewhere.

I don't know what your politics are, but Cape Charles Wave (which is now defunct and replaced with something similar) is like listening to Fox News. For heaven's sake, don't believe everything you read there. Read and be amused. They're good for gossip and innuendos.

It is easy to make friends here once you are settled in. Just be open about joining events and town activities. The art community is active here. How much does it really cost? As far as I'm concerned when I lived there, I could afford everything and I'm retired and live on my pension. Cost is relative and it's all up to you. But as far as beach town goes, this is the most affordable beach town you'll ever find in the U.S. It's charming, pleasant, civilized, and safe, and fast becoming an artist haven. For a small town, I can say that their restaurants are comparable to what you'd find in any big city and, yes, they are affordable. Virginia Beach is not far away; so is Washington, DC or Richmond.
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