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Old 10-21-2018, 12:53 PM
 
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I lived in Norfolk for 3 years while in college and I have some nostalgia for it. I like the 'grittiness' of the area and I like that it's near water. I've been thinking about moving back there, but I just can't justify that move to myself for the following reasons:

1. Very large military presence

I'm currently in the military, and when my contract ends I will have done almost 6 years of service. By that point, I probably won't be able to stand even being around anything military

2. Pitifully low wages and concerns about employment opportunities

Using the site 'Glassdoor,' I've been looking up the median salary of various occupations in several different locations. Norfolk wages are on par or significantly lower than they are in places such as Birmingham AL, Detroit, Jackson MS, and Toledo OH.

3. Traffic


Tunnel traffic is abysmal at times.

4. Lack of affordable housing

There's just not much housing for a man of my means. There's some, but nowhere near as much a other locations I'm considering (Kansas City, Indianapolis, St Louis, Cincinnati).
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Old 10-21-2018, 01:19 PM
 
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Sounds like you have answered your own question.
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Old 10-21-2018, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Northern VA (for now)
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I lived in Norfolk for 3 years while in college and I have some nostalgia for it. I like the 'grittiness' of the area and I like that it's near water. I've been thinking about moving back there, but I just can't justify that move to myself for the following reasons:

1. Very large military presence

I'm currently in the military, and when my contract ends I will have done almost 6 years of service. By that point, I probably won't be able to stand even being around anything military

2. Pitifully low wages and concerns about employment opportunities

Using the site 'Glassdoor,' I've been looking up the median salary of various occupations in several different locations. Norfolk wages are on par or significantly lower than they are in places such as Birmingham AL, Detroit, Jackson MS, and Toledo OH.

3. Traffic


Tunnel traffic is abysmal at times.

4. Lack of affordable housing

There's just not much housing for a man of my means. There's some, but nowhere near as much a other locations I'm considering (Kansas City, Indianapolis, St Louis, Cincinnati).
Let me save you some time. You are probably better off looking in Richmond and making weekend trips to Norfolk. Truthfully, I think those looking for decent jobs and affordable housing should not waste time looking in Virginia. I've been here almost my entire existence (split between Hampton Roads and Northern VA) and find it less feasible and making less sense to stay here. I'm actually trying to move to Louisville or Cincinnati.
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Old 10-22-2018, 12:38 PM
 
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Let me save you some time. You are probably better off looking in Richmond and making weekend trips to Norfolk. Truthfully, I think those looking for decent jobs and affordable housing should not waste time looking in Virginia. I've been here almost my entire existence (split between Hampton Roads and Northern VA) and find it less feasible and making less sense to stay here. I'm actually trying to move to Louisville or Cincinnati.
You are saying Virginia (NoVa for example) has no decent jobs? That area has plenty of well paying jobs in all sectors.
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Old 10-22-2018, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Northern VA (for now)
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You are saying Virginia (NoVa for example) has no decent jobs? That area has plenty of well paying jobs in all sectors.
Yeah, NoVA has jobs but affordable housing is the problem, especially for starting out your career. Richmond isnít much better off.
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Old 10-22-2018, 03:40 PM
 
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Yea housing is a challenge in NoVa, especially for those starting out. But you know how it works, areas of higher paying jobs = higher housing costs and so on.

Good luck with your career.
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Old 10-22-2018, 05:26 PM
 
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The OP is nostalgic for Norfolk and not NOVA. I get it about Norfolk. I lived for a couple of years in West Ghent but that was back in the late 80's in a walk-up. Yes, NOVA has good jobs but is nothing like Norfolk and a lot of people struggle to live comfortably due to COL in NOVA whereas it is a lot easier other places. I'll just have to be satisfied visiting. I think Kansas City, MO has some grittiness as well.
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Old 10-22-2018, 07:04 PM
 
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To each his own.
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Old 10-23-2018, 06:08 AM
 
Location: Norfolk, VA
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I lived in Norfolk for 3 years while in college and I have some nostalgia for it. I like the 'grittiness' of the area and I like that it's near water. I've been thinking about moving back there, but I just can't justify that move to myself for the following reasons:

1. Very large military presence

I'm currently in the military, and when my contract ends I will have done almost 6 years of service. By that point, I probably won't be able to stand even being around anything military

2. Pitifully low wages and concerns about employment opportunities

Using the site 'Glassdoor,' I've been looking up the median salary of various occupations in several different locations. Norfolk wages are on par or significantly lower than they are in places such as Birmingham AL, Detroit, Jackson MS, and Toledo OH.

3. Traffic


Tunnel traffic is abysmal at times.

4. Lack of affordable housing

There's just not much housing for a man of my means. There's some, but nowhere near as much a other locations I'm considering (Kansas City, Indianapolis, St Louis, Cincinnati).
If you're considering the Midwest why don't you just move there?

I'm from the Midwest. The grittiness you love about Norfolk is in every city. Really does not matter where you live up there. So just move there and be done with it.

I don't get this whole nostalgia thing. If you want gritty just move to a city that has it but is still on the move. Like Pittsburgh. Or find a dump like Youngstown and deal with the consequences. Not a hard decision at all.
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Old 10-23-2018, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Hampton Roads
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