Opinions on how Black People are Treated in Hawaii (high crime, neighborhood)

[dad2764]

Originally Posted by athene111

Did you ever think that it may not be due to skin color but because of the way you were dressed? People treat you different if you are dressed nicely and look respectable rather than if you have saggy pants, tattoes showing etc.

It also has to do with the high crime rate among the African American community. A high % of the incarcerated population is black, whatever the reason maybe- historical wrongs, poverty, illiteracy. But it makes other people judge you differently and act suspicious than if you were from a community that is better on those things. The chinese are not white either - why are they not treated the same way? I live in a diverse neighborhood and my black neighbor was arrested for drug possession. There was shooting in the house of another black neighbor. Nothing happened with the other neighbors who were korean, chinese and hispanics. Natually when people see these high crime rates, they start looking at a particular community differently. It defintely does not have to do with your skin or racism.

I don't even know what to say to this!

I live in a diverse neighborhood, too. I am the only white guy. No one has been arrested, and the only time the cops have been in the neighborhood was because my black neighbor called them on her white boyfriend.

[NVplumber]

Seems to me that we are all wasting a lot of energy worrying about our color ( or lack thereof) that could be better expended getting a pig in the ground, a fire going and the ice chests loaded up. Some kalua pork, grilled ono and mahi and a few cold ones sounds like da universal language! Be exellent to each other....party on dudes! Aloha!

[1amongthousands]

I live in Hawaii and yes my husband is a cop...Most.... and i did say most of the Hawaiian people i meet are prejudice against black people ....my husband and it "act" very well thank you ....as we are BOTH from a law enforcement background SO NO PROBLEM THERE !!!!!.....the only people that they embrace are "white" people and asian people ....there are a lot of asian people who were born and raised here ....Dont expect to be embraced at all sorry to say if you indeed are black but expect a cold shoulder ..Some are blatantly prejudice so you may even end up in a court making a few million dollars.....NO need to feel down about it though most of their poor are "homeless" so it goes to say if they cant treat their own people ...well.... not too many other people stand a chance.....dude with the property ...you might want to check it out...moana lua has been having some bad lave flow....the Hawaiian people dont consider it dangerous as long as it stays in one place ....dude its not staying in one place its been all on TV....Not to be insulting but you need to know the TRUTH....not this crap their telling you

[kani-lehua]

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Originally Posted by 1amongthousands

I live in Hawaii and yes my husband is a cop...Most.... and i did say most of the Hawaiian people i meet are prejudice against black people ....my husband and it "act" very well thank you ....as we are BOTH from a law enforcement background SO NO PROBLEM THERE !!!!!.....

do you mean "hawaiian people" or hawai'i people? i don't think it's a race issue. respect is earned. what about the three cops on kaua'i who will be terminated for felony theft. how can anyone give them any respect? the three are of different ethnicities.

the only people that they embrace are "white" people and asian people ....there are a lot of asian people who were born and raised here ....Dont expect to be embraced at all sorry to say if you indeed are black but expect a cold shoulder ..Some are blatantly prejudice so you may even end up in a court making a few million dollars.....

i don't know about "embracing". guess you are not referring to the hawaiian activists and/or the sovereignty movement. and, are you referring to the black male that experienced racism/prejudice and worked for lockheed? believe it was reported that this same individual experienced the same thing on the mainland for the same company. there is a black individual that "hawai'i" people have embraced. you might have heard of him? barak obama????

NO need to feel down about it though most of their poor are "homeless" so it goes to say if they cant treat their own people ...well.... not too many other people stand a chance.....

doesn't matter what race/ethnicity you are. homelessness has no boundaries. whether you are a veteran, an addict, an alchoholic, unemployed, a single parent or a family with working parents that just can't afford to pay rent or buy a place.

dude with the property ...you might want to check it out...moana lua has been having some bad lave flow....the Hawaiian people dont consider it dangerous as long as it stays in one place ....dude its not staying in one place its been all on TV....Not to be insulting but you need to know the TRUTH....not this crap their telling you

are you referring to mauna loa, not moanalua? and, the lava flow not the lave flow? if you are referring to the lava flows on the big island, it's kilauea that's erupting and threatens the royal gardens subdivsion which has only two residences left. owned and occupied by caucasians. of course "hawaiians" consider the flows dangerous! otherwise the state board of land and natural resources would not have voted yesterday to keep the kahaualea natural area reserve closed because of safety concerns over flowing lava and toxic fumes generated by the eruption.

[Koale]

Hmmm, let's try this one. I'm middle aged, white and gay... I wonder how I am going to be treated when I move to the Big Island with my S/O of 18 years and our 3 dogs? If I wear pants and not a skirt, maybe people won't notice? If I act 'normal' and don't hold hands w/my S/O maybe people won't notice?

Or.. Maybe if I live Aloha, love my neighbors and my friends, give rather than expect to receive, get active within my new community, continue full-time employment and pay taxes, act like a human being rather than allowing myself to be type cast, ya think anyone will notice? Or better yet, do ya think anyone is going to care? We don't!

A hui hou,
Koale

[kani-lehua]

points, koale! good post. sent you a direct message.

[nubia66]

Originally Posted by dadtoscano

I don't even know what to say to this!

I live in a diverse neighborhood, too. I am the only white guy. No one has been arrested, and the only time the cops have been in the neighborhood was because my black neighbor called them on her white boyfriend.

I am an intelligent black woman running my own business and let me tell you for a fact that race is the issue. I don't wear baggy jeans or dress like what America calls a "thug". I get clients for my IT business nationwide via virtual connections, which means they don't see me until I show up to honor the contract. When I am on the phone, they love me, the love my qualifications and hire my firm. But unfortunately most of these companies cancel the contract after I walk in the door revealing my blackness. I didn't get arrested, or do anything negative. I have already proved that I was qualified and they allowed my color negate my worth. I hear and read constantly about how white people have killed, left, or mistreated their family for money and things.... Almost everytime you hear one of those crazy crimes or mass murderers, they are WHITe... But guess what???? I have not decided that all white people are greedy, money hungry, mass murderers. So how dare you or anyone else decide that ALL BLACKS are bad or negative based on what the media portrays. I give each person the benefit of the doubt regardless of the statistics. And when I decide that you are a no good person, it is because you really are a no good person, not because you are White, or Asian, anything esle. So you sleep well with your justification for mistreatment and unfairness. Hug that belief well. But how would you feel if you were negated as a positive citizen based on the negative statistics for your race and nothing more......
Watch that glass house that you are throwing stones from.

[dad2764]

Originally Posted by nubia66

I am an intelligent black woman running my own business and let me tell you for a fact that race is the issue. I don't wear baggy jeans or dress like what America calls a "thug". I get clients for my IT business nationwide via virtual connections, which means they don't see me until I show up to honor the contract. When I am on the phone, they love me, the love my qualifications and hire my firm. But unfortunately most of these companies cancel the contract after I walk in the door revealing my blackness. I didn't get arrested, or do anything negative. I have already proved that I was qualified and they allowed my color negate my worth. I hear and read constantly about how white people have killed, left, or mistreated their family for money and things.... Almost everytime you hear one of those crazy crimes or mass murderers, they are WHITe... But guess what???? I have not decided that all white people are greedy, money hungry, mass murderers. So how dare you or anyone else decide that ALL BLACKS are bad or negative based on what the media portrays. I give each person the benefit of the doubt regardless of the statistics. And when I decide that you are a no good person, it is because you really are a no good person, not because you are White, or Asian, anything esle. So you sleep well with your justification for mistreatment and unfairness. Hug that belief well. But how would you feel if you were negated as a positive citizen based on the negative statistics for your race and nothing more......
Watch that glass house that you are throwing stones from.

Hopefully, you were replying to another post and accidentally quoted mine, since I clearly have a problem with racism. If you weren't, I'd like to point out that I was angry about the racist post that I quoted and replied to.

[jalushell]

Prejudice? I live in Georgia now for 15 years, grew up in Wisconsin for 20 years. You would not believe the culture shock it was and still is living in the south. I am white and feel like a minority in this land. It is not all of the south but a vast majority that looks down on us yankees. The bumper stickers -yankees go home-, the rebel flag flying. I am a very loving, accepting person, so when I get a cold shoulder just because people hear my northern accent or know that I come from the north I simply do not know this mind frame...Husband is in the process of a work transfer to Hawaii...

[pirate_lafitte]

Originally Posted by jalushell

Prejudice? I live in Georgia now for 15 years, grew up in Wisconsin for 20 years. You would not believe the culture shock it was and still is living in the south. I am white and feel like a minority in this land. It is not all of the south but a vast majority that looks down on us yankees. The bumper stickers -yankees go home-, the rebel flag flying. I am a very loving, accepting person, so when I get a cold shoulder just because people hear my northern accent or know that I come from the north I simply do not know this mind frame...Husband is in the process of a work transfer to Hawaii...

You're not alone in that. I have been living in Georgia since 1994 and I get kidded for saying "pop" not grandfather, but sodapop. My own father is getting tired of the south himself(he is a Milwaukee native.). I don't blame him either. That shock transcends all colors and races.
As for Hawaii, be prepared to face prejudice here too. It's all over the place. Hawaii just doesn't get a repuatation for it like Detroit or Alabama gets for its problems.