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Hawaiian's fleet of twenty B717s is between 20.5 and 13.9 years old and replacement jets have not been ordered. With a new fleet of Dreamliners they may be exiting the interisland market and willing to let SWA take over.
The likelihood of that is - zero. The Hawaiian 717s aren’t expensive to maintain and have over 25 years of life in them. The Dreamliners are a replacement order of Airbus 330neo they cancelled
The likelihood of that is - zero. The Hawaiian 717s aren’t expensive to maintain and have over 25 years of life in them. The Dreamliners are a replacement order of Airbus 330neo they cancelled
I didn't mean that would happen in the next five years or even the next ten years. But jets take a long time to deliver and when the oldest in a subfleet is over 20 years old, it is usually about time to place an order.
Hawaiian Airlines 717 configuration
First 8 recliner seats
Economy 120 standard seats
Potential replacement Delta Airbus A220-100 (CS1)
12 First
15 Delta Comfort
82 Economy
When it flew to Fukuoka, the air ticket was cheaper than the one flying to Haneda even though Kyushu is farther in distance.
Distance is not a factor for airline in pricing airline tickets - They are priced at what they feel the market will demand. In the instance with Fukuoka - the market just wasn't there, and the prices were so low it was unprofitable - hence, Hawaiian does not fly there any longer, only via codeshare via Japan Airlines.
Distance is not a factor for airline in pricing airline tickets - They are priced at what they feel the market will demand. In the instance with Fukuoka - the market just wasn't there, and the prices were so low it was unprofitable - hence, Hawaiian does not fly there any longer, only via codeshare via Japan Airlines.
Japan airlines stopped those flights. Delta tried them for a while, but they are stopping next month.
I think one of the problems with Fukuoka is that it is a little far for a single-aisle jet. As it is a region of 2.5 million people you would think they could support a single-aisle jet, but a twin-aisle jet has too many seats.
Hawaiian Airlines
Las Vegas, Long Beach, Los Angeles, Oakland, Phoenix–Sky Harbor, Portland (OR), Sacramento, San Diego, San Francisco, San Jose (CA), Seattle/Tacoma,
Boston,New York–JFK,
Auckland,
Brisbane,
Seoul–Incheon,
Pago Pago,
Papeete,
Sydney
Hawaiian's fleet of twenty B717s is between 20.5 and 13.9 years old and replacement jets have not been ordered. With a new fleet of Dreamliners they may be exiting the interisland market and willing to let SWA take over.
Inter-island Hawaii service is basically a mass-transit operation, with flights flying between the principal airports at very frequent intervals, all day long. Southwest would have to dramatically ramp up their service before they could be seen as a serious competitor in that market.
But, that said, they got their start flying a triangle in Texas. So it's not like they're a stranger to short-haul, high-frequency service.
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