Please help regarding moving to big island! (Hawaiian Paradise Park, Hawaiian Acres: renting, crime)

[vickyd]

I am moving to Paradise Park next month, and upon researching the sub division found some disturbing things about thefts and such. I come from an extremely safe area. Can anyone please be specific in recommending safer parts of HPP than others? Even down to which streets are the safest? Have I just read too much on the internet? I have several houses lined up to look at, and my main criteria is that it is completely safe.

[1freespirit]

I think every subdivision will have some type of crime - does not matter if on the mainland or Hawaii. There are different types of people in every part of the world and unfortunately not every one is honest. So for you to want an area "Completely safe" I'm not sure if that could be a guarantee anywhere you might live. Even some gated security subdivsions can have crime.

You may want to look into seeing if any parts have like a neighborhood watch set up and/or on a regular patrol by police. One that has CCR's in place etc. I'm sure some areas in subdivisions may be worse then others but I don't think any would or could be considered completely safe.

[mdand3boys]

Originally Posted by vickyd

I am moving to Paradise Park next month, and upon researching the sub division found some disturbing things about thefts and such. I come from an extremely safe area. Can anyone please be specific in recommending safer parts of HPP than others? Even down to which streets are the safest? Have I just read too much on the internet? I have several houses lined up to look at, and my main criteria is that it is completely safe.

With the economy in such poor shape, petty theft type crimes have gone up everywhere. You must also remember that HPP is a HUGE subdivision - almost 9000 lots!

[hotzcatz]

You are in charge of your own safety in most of the big rural subdivisions. By the time the police can get out there whatever is happening is already over. Most of the crime is theft and burglary, although they say there is a lot of domestic violence scattered amongst this, too.

Back in the eighties, theft was raging in Hawaiian Acres. Over several hundred thefts per month. They put together a very active Community Watch program and theft rate dropped to one or two per month. So, community level security teams are very effective. I do not know what the current status of the Hawaiian Acres Community Watch is, but you could inquire if there is such a thing in HPP.

[vickyd]

Thanks for your replies! I talked to a friend who said it was worse closer to the highway.

[leilaniguy]

Originally Posted by vickyd

Thanks for your replies! I talked to a friend who said it was worse closer to the highway.

Hi vickyd. There are more reported crimes above 20th street, but that's due mainly to the higher population. The blocks are each a mile long, and some near the top are nearly built out. There are photos & info. about the subdivision @ Aloha and Welcome to Hawaiian Paradise Park!

[kryk]

keep to the edges of the upper part of the subdivision (HPP) It's best to have empty lots around you if possible and have a long driveway. It's always best if your house is not visible from the street (hidden behind a hill or foliage)

[mdand3boys]

Originally Posted by kryk

keep to the edges of the upper part of the subdivision (HPP) It's best to have empty lots around you if possible and have a long driveway. It's always best if your house is not visible from the street (hidden behind a hill or foliage)

Actually, the reverse is rue.
The farther you are away from other houses, the easier it is to be broken into.
You want anyone driving by to be able to spook the thief. Thieves do not want to be seen.
You want neighbors close by - and you want to know them and them know you.
You want to look out for each other.

Alarms can also help. We have one and religiously set it when leaving. It should have motion sensors inside, not just window and door sensors.

[KonaKat]

"someplace completely safe" and "nowhere down here is safe for haoles" are two pretty broad statements. Neither of which is a realistic idea.

My question to the OP is this; have you actually been in Hawaiian Acres before? Spent some time on the island? I hope you are renting for a few months so that you can fully investigate areas in which you might want to live.

[leilaniguy]

The OP was interested in HPP, not Hawaiian Acres. The two places are miles and worlds apart.