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10-28-2009, 01:36 PM
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That's a great list hotzcatz, especially #7! Number 10 is very important, at some time you will find yourself needing your neighbors help & they yours.
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10-30-2009, 08:22 AM
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I lived in Laie for a period of my childhood, my addition is to run around outside without shoes on as much as possible before moving there. As a child I found it odd that I was the only kid at school with shoes on my first day. Took my feet a good time to get used to it but I loved it.
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10-30-2009, 12:56 PM
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1. Things are going to cost more over here (utilities, food, housing, etc.)
2. You will never see the seasons again, so before you leave home enjoy and treasure the snow (unless you live B.I. or Maui) and leaves changing color.
3. Please don't try to speak pidgin... you may think you got it, you don't and its easy to tell.
4. Say goodbye to REAL Mexican food, and hello to Japanese, Hawaiian, and other types of Asian cuisine.
5. On Oahu the Bus is fairly reliable, don't count on it for Maui (unless you live in Kahului)
6. When going fishing, take only what you need (or going to use).
7. When a neighbor is selling something for fundraiser, buy some, you just made a friend and its always a good gesture to support local school activities, sports, etc.
8. If people give you stink eye, chances are you did something disrespectful in there eyes and should consider what it was.
9. Learn to love BJ Penn, Kendall Grove, and UFC ( as well as Vegas)
10. If you are lost while driving, pull over and figure it out. (Despite all the "slow down this aint the mainland" stickers, drivers here expect you to know where you are going and drive at a speed about 10 mph over the speed limit).
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10-30-2009, 02:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by slick828
2. You will never see the seasons again
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Well, not in the same way, but there are definitely seasonal changes on the windward side: the type of fruits that are ripe change, there's more rain in winter, it's colder in winter, and the type of insects change.
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4. Say goodbye to REAL Mexican food
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Luquin's in Pahoa. Excellent. Ask if the waitress who does the homemade lilikoi pie made any today.
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7. When a neighbor is selling something for fundraiser, buy some, you just made a friend and its always a good gesture to support local school activities, sports, etc.
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Excellent advice.
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10-30-2009, 06:20 PM
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[quote=slick828;11412869]3. Please don't try to speak pidgin... you may think you got it, you don't and its easy to tell.
Disagree...
If used correctly.
If you hang out with "da locals", it will come naturally.
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10-30-2009, 07:18 PM
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You are entitled to your own opinion Kailani, but pidgin is so much more than just words; a lot of it is based on context and feel. Sentence structure is very different from regular english. I have friends who have been here a long time and when they use pidgin, its hard to describe, but you know they are from the mainland. On a side note, what is that hand thing. Are you telling me to stop?
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10-30-2009, 07:32 PM
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I have to agree with slick828 about the use of pidgin by malahini. I know people who've lived here for decades but there is no way they will get the pidgin right. No way. They might know the words, but they don't have an ear for the natural rhythm and flow of pidgin the way my Waimanalo father in law does.  I can't put it into words but it just doesn't sound right when newcomers use it. It seems forced. It seems like they're trying too hard to fit in.
Use of pidgin by a malahini is to me different from sprinkling a Hawaiian word here and there into a sentence. Saying "Aloha" and "Mahalo", or "Keiki" or similar words is fine. Just leave the pidgin alone.
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10-30-2009, 07:58 PM
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I too agree w/slick828 & a fishwithabite nothing worse than some wanna be trying to talk like a local. I know locals don't like it all.
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10-30-2009, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Afishwithabike
I have to agree with slick828 about the use of pidgin by malahini. I know people who've lived here for decades but there is no way they will get the pidgin right. No way. They might know the words, but they don't have an ear for the natural rhythm and flow of pidgin the way my Waimanalo father in law does.  I can't put it into words but it just doesn't sound right when newcomers use it. It seems forced. It seems like they're trying too hard to fit in.
Use of pidgin by a malahini is to me different from sprinkling a Hawaiian word here and there into a sentence. Saying "Aloha" and "Mahalo", or "Keiki" or similar words is fine. Just leave the pidgin alone.
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A "malahini" is a "dull ache" while a "malihini" is a "newcomer." While some "malihini" do qualify as "malahini," remember that vowels are very important in Hawaiian words. 
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10-30-2009, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonah K
A "malahini" is a "dull ache" while a "malihini" is a "newcomer." While some "malihini" do qualify as "malahini," remember that vowels are very important in Hawaiian words. 
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Thanks! You know what I meant. 
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