It is amazing to me... (homes, place to live, store)

[tortoise31]

It's amazing to me how many people will uproot themselves and their kids to go to Hawaii as if it is some mystical place where they will find jobs, peace, homes and nirvana, and sometimes all on Craigslist.
It has taken me 23 years to get my ducks in a row financially, my son old enough to not require special education that does not exist, and to have the quarantine system in a doable state, as part of my family has fur and 4 legs. And I am a professional, who is not relying on a job in Hawaii.

If it is one or two adults, that is one thing. But to drag kids into this, I don't know, unless I have been the most conservative person on earth...

[Alohikea]

You hit the nail on the head. This kind of move is traumatic for an adult; just think how hard it could be on kids.

[Afishwithabike]

I agree.

It's a huge move not just geographically but culturally and emotionally.

[Boxcar Overkill]

You think it's hard now, imagine how hard it was for the Polynesians a thousand years ago.

[hotzcatz]

The Polynesians/Micronesians had a hard journey, but once they got here they had the same culture they were used to. Mainland folks are generally in for a huge cultural shift they may or may not be prepared for.

[hothulamaui]

some people move around all their lives, so uprooting to a new culture is not scary, but something to look forward to. it is not that big of deal for some.

[hothulamaui]

the other thing I think goes to personality. some people work commission only while other people would be very uncomfortable not knowing what their paycheck would be and want that hourly or salaried rate. some people would put their savings into opening a new business where others would never put their money in a new business. some people like to gamble others not so much.

[lootie]

Originally Posted by hotzcatz

The Polynesians/Micronesians had a hard journey, but once they got here they had the same culture they were used to. Mainland folks are generally in for a huge cultural shift they may or may not be prepared for.

I don't really understand what you mean by cultural shift? Is is really that much different on the mainland culturally?

Not to be rude...just sayin'

[KonaKat]

Originally Posted by hothulamaui

some people move around all their lives, so uprooting to a new culture is not scary, but something to look forward to. it is not that big of deal for some.

I agree. I know families here with kids, from a dozen countries.

But, I must also admit that Hotzcatz has the Side B part very succinctly put.

When we moved, my daughter and then 6 year old granddaughter made the move too. My granddaughter has not had one problem in the past 6+ years except the vog bothers her asthma when it's especially heavy.

[hotzcatz]

Eh, Lootie, go try visit the mainland, you'll see! It's way different over there. Probably not so bad if you are visiting, but if you were to live there, it's way different.

Only one kind of rice at the grocery store and it comes in a red twelve ounce box instead of the usual twenty pound bag. No spam musubi and no manapua at the local gas stations. No plate lunch anywhere, either. You can find things like "grits" and biscuits and gravy, but no loco moco or Portuguese sausage.

You go out somewhere and EVERYONE LOOKS THE SAME! It's very eerie! Like, what happened to everyone else? How did they get only one kind of person all in the same spot? It's very odd. You won't know why you are all nervous, either, until you tell yourself they really didn't do something to half the people who live there, they only have one kind of person that lives where ever there is.

Oh, and they don't take their shoes off at the door and they brag about themselves like it's a good thing. And they say rude things to each other on purpose sometimes! And they are concerned about what sort of car they drive and fuss about their clothes a lot more. They rush around a lot and drive really fast, too. And honk at people they don't even know! Loud and long honks, not friendly beeps to say "hi" or anything. And all their roads have numbers instead of names. And they use directions nobody can figure out.

It's okay for a vacation, but it's a way different sort of place to live in.